hand reading exercise #3 (5max)
 

I figured this would do more good in micro than HUSH. they ignore my posts there anyway. you are free to do the same.

hero is TAG, but keep in mind this is shorthanded so plays more hands and is more aggressive

MP is LAG - plays almost all hands for one bet, cold calls maybe half the time, autobets when checked to, will call down with weak hands like third pair, when he raises he usually has a piece

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Preflop: eviljeff is UTG
<font color="#CC3333">eviljeff raises</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls.

since SH raising standards might not be what you're used to (especially mine), I'll just tell you hero's range here: 77-AA, A7+, any suited A, any two higher than 9

1) MP isn't tricky, so what hands can you rule out for him given that he didn't 3bet?

Flop: (4.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">eviljeff bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">eviljeff 3-bets</font>, MP calls.

2) what range of hands do I bet here? is it any different from my pfr range?
3) when MP pops me he's probably got something - what is a reasonable range for him now?
4) what do I 3bet here? do I have a made hand, a draw, or am I bluffing?


Turn: (5.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">eviljeff bets</font>, MP calls.

5) given that MP doesn't pop me here, what can you rule out of your previous range for him?

River: (7.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">eviljeff bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">eviljeff 3-bets</font>, MP calls.

6) MP raises here - he must have improved. what exactly is his hand?
7) I know what MP has and I still 3-bet. I have one of 4 hands. what are they?

Re: hand reading exercise #3 (5max)
 

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MP is LAG - plays almost all hands for one bet, cold calls maybe half the time, autobets when checked to, will call down with weak hands like third pair, when he raises he usually has a piece


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I know what MP has and I still 3-bet. I have one of 4 hands. what are they?

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Why didn't you C/R the turn?
He has QT you have, I dunno, 77, KK or AA. I was going to say A3s but I don't see how you can 3-bet the flop with that without a flush draw.

Re: hand reading exercise #3 (5max)
 

77,qq,aa,kk.

ps. Whats your resulsts with A2-A6s and QJ-Q10 and J10 from utg in a five handed game? I am currently raising A7s,KJ,J10s but not QJo or J10o from that position. I am also raising 66 and possibly 55.

Re: hand reading exercise #3 (5max)
 

1. PP's 10's -A's (possibly 9's), AK/AQ possibly AJs/A10s

2. Your continuation bet range here is likely similiar to your pfr range

3. TP/2pair hands like Qx, Q3, Q7, 73; possible one pair plus flush/gutshot hands like 76d

4. You're not bluffing against someone who raises with something and calls down with less (ie unlikely to fold).
You could have a TPGK hand, pocket 7's, one pair plus nut flush draw like A7d.

5. The 2 pair hands and any pair containing a 3.

6. Q10 looks reasonable.

7. I got five: Pocket 7's, Q's, K's, A's, A3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (less likely though).


Also if he autobets when checked to, did you consider a turn c/r?

Re: hand reading exercise #3 (5max)
 

You have 77
MP has QTs or AQ

Re: hand reading exercise #3 (5max)
 

1.) AA-99, AK-AT, KQ-KJ
2.) You bet the flop here with nearly any 2. Not much.
3.) Flush draw, Qx, 7x, 3x, pocket pair.
4.) Made hand, probably AA-77, AQ, A7d, KQ, QJ, QT
5.) Probably would have raised 3x here, so 7x, Q with a weak kicker, pocket pair, flush draw
6.) QT looks pretty likely. TT is unlikely since he didn't 3-bet preflop.
7.) AA/KK/QQ/77

Re: hand reading exercise #3 (5max)
 

I'd say you have QQ or an overpair. T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] looks reasonable for villain.


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since SH raising standards might not be what you're used to (especially mine), I'll just tell you hero's range here: 77-AA, A7+, any suited A, any two higher than 9

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This is a dangerously wide range for UTG in a 5-handed game (unless you're at a table full of rocks and they think you're one too).

Re: hand reading exercise #3 (5max)
 

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This is a dangerously wide range for UTG in a 5-handed game (unless you're at a table full of rocks and they think you're one too).

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I agree - I'd only raise down to about A6s, A8o, I'd throw away JTo, QTo and I'd raise 66 and probably 55.

Re: hand reading exercise #3 (5max)
 

Any suited ace to open? This is surely too loose, and it's gotta be costing you money in the long run. A7s is my personal minimum, and that's opening.

Re: hand reading exercise #3 (5max)
 

This is a very, very good post. Proof positive why the Micros is the most underrated strategy forum on 2+2.

1. Ruling out AK, AQs, TT+
2. You're betting most everything on that flop.
3. 33, 77, Q7, Q3, Qx, outside chance at K7, A7
4. AQ, KQ, maybe QJ, 77, QQ+
5. Ruling out Q3, 33, 77, prolly Q7
6. QT
7. QQ-AA, 77

Edit: Should have included a couple of decent diamonds (pair or no) in the flop range.