JJ, too timid?
 

Typical Hand for me. Am I too timid?

100nl Pokerstars. I'm in small blind($0.50) with JJ.

MP(unknown) raises to $3, I call, everyone else folds.

Pot: $7
Flop: 8 8 4

I bet $3, trying to see were I stand. MP Raises to $7.
I call, thinking that I show some strength with my call on this flop.

Pot: $21
Turn: 2

I check, he bets $15, I fold

What do you think?

Re: JJ, too timid?
 

overpairs suck, and my line(s) are bogus but...

Preflop is $3 a std raise or did you gain some info here?
Flop - I bet the pot with overpairs, top pairs, two pairs, sets in fact anything and everything short of quad A's when OOP. My thoughts are that when you lead into a preflop raiser you have to give a good reason to fold and less than half the pot is just a reason to think he push you off your hand.
On the turn your line continued to smell of weakness so you never get to know if you had the best hand.

Overall I vote yes. too timid. Bet your overpair hard to protect it from opportunistic bluffs and steals. It's easier to let go when a villain repops your pot sized bet and as you were wiling to call his raise on the flop you should seriously have considered betting at least that much to begin with.

Re: JJ, too timid?
 

i would fold this pf. he might have AQs.

Re: JJ, too timid?
 

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Re: JJ, too timid?
 

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i would fold this pf. he might have AQs.

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could you elaborate.

Re: JJ, too timid?
 

Thanks for a well thought trough response. What you say makes sense.
How would you proceed if he just calls your pot sized bet?

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i would fold this pf. he might have AQs.

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Awesome.

Re: JJ, too timid?
 

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Pot: $7
Flop: 8 8 4

I bet $3, trying to see were I stand. MP Raises to $7.


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Bet full pot if you want to have ANY idea of where you stand.

If he just calls lead for 1/2 -> 2/3 pot on turn.

If he raises most passive opponents have you beat.

If he's aggro you shouldn't be leading into him.

Re: JJ, too timid?
 

I think that what I am afraid is being called down by a bigger pair.

If I was my oppenent and held KK or AA i would just call all the way since on a 8 8 4 flop "the real me" are not likely to have any outs.

Re: JJ, too timid?
 

Flop bet is a bit weak. You should've bet closer to the size of the pot.