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Vote4Pedro 12-21-2005 12:41 AM

AJo in BB
 
This hand just came up in my 20+2 Limit MTT, I know this isnt a tournament forum, but it seems like a fairly common situation...

2nd hand of the tournament, the PFR opened on the first hand as well, peeled the flop and folded the turn...

Party Poker Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind t15 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG+1 (t1195)
MP1 (t925)
MP2 (t1000)
MP3 (t1000)
CO (t1000)
Button (t925)
SB (t985)
Hero (t1000)
UTG (t970)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB, t97.5) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font> HERO?

Forget its a tournament...against unknowns, whats your play?

Jaran 12-21-2005 12:43 AM

Re: AJo in BB
 
I call, planning to raise a safe turn card. If MP1 3bets, then I'm done on the turn unless I hit another J.

-Jaran

12-21-2005 01:01 AM

Re: AJo in BB
 
[ QUOTE ]
I call, planning to raise a safe turn card.

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Aaron W. 12-21-2005 01:04 AM

Re: AJo in BB
 
I check/3-bet. There's no reason to think that you don't have the best hand. You also don't care much what falls on the next street because the flush and straight fears are diminished (3-handed pot, not eleventeen-handed). Hope K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] doesn't fall on the turn.

Aaron W. 12-21-2005 01:06 AM

Re: AJo in BB
 
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I call, planning to raise a safe turn card.

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You mean betting or check-raising?

Jaran 12-21-2005 01:13 AM

Re: AJo in BB
 
c/r. If MP1 calls on the flop, I expect him to ck to the flop raiser on the turn, which lets me make a beautiful turn c/r here. Also, I wanna see if MP1 3bets here.

-caveat- if the flop comes back capped, I feel comfortable folding.

-Jaran

Vote4Pedro 12-21-2005 02:19 AM

Turn?
 
Party Poker Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind t15 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG+1 (t1195)
MP1 (t925)
MP2 (t1000)
MP3 (t1000)
CO (t1000)
Button (t925)
SB (t985)
Hero (t1000)
UTG (t970)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB, t97.5) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB, t187.5) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, HERO?

Nasty...

Shillx 12-21-2005 02:39 AM

Re: AJo in BB
 
I would fold preflop in a tournament, but I would probably call in a side game. I would fold the flop as played in a tournament and 3-bet in a side game. I would have just bet the flop in a tournament and check/raised in a ring game. So yeah there are plenty of differences. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] The main being that people play a much tigher style in a MTT so you have to give more respect to coldcallers and their flop raises. On the same token, you can give less respect to PFR's.

12-21-2005 02:47 AM

Re: AJo in BB
 
call and see action behind. if MP1 caps, it's probably a big PP. reeval on the turn

12-21-2005 02:48 AM

Re: Turn?
 
[ QUOTE ]


Turn: (6.25 BB, t187.5) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, HERO?

Nasty...

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time to get rid of MP1 and get a free SD?


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