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Jay36489 02-09-2005 02:19 AM

TPTK
 
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

SB ($21.21)
BB ($24.5)
UTG ($28.15)
UTG+1 ($58.07)
UTG+2 ($7.75)
Hero ($23.25)
MP2 ($51.5)
MP3 ($55.1)
CO ($51.59)
Button ($13)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, MP2 calls $2, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $4</font>, Hero?...

BB is loose and between neutral and passive.

tbach24 02-09-2005 02:25 AM

Re: TPTK
 
Make it 12.

Jay36489 02-09-2005 02:33 AM

Re: TPTK
 
ok, lets say I make it 12, villain pushes, and its 8 back to you me against a $22 pot.

steaknshake925 02-09-2005 02:55 AM

Re: TPTK
 
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ok, lets say I make it 12, villain pushes, and its 8 back to you me against a $22 pot.


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call

Caruso329 02-09-2005 03:17 AM

Re: TPTK
 
Agreed with everything else said. I would raise to at least $3 PF though. (not criticizing your raise, just personal preference)

Jay36489 02-09-2005 03:38 AM

Re: TPTK
 
I made it 12, and called the push. his 94o held up.

I just cant help feeling I should see this coming. It seems like as soon as you realise your TPTK may not be good you're all in or getting odds to call even if you think you might be behind. Can this be avoided with short stacks?

Caruso329 02-09-2005 03:51 AM

Re: TPTK
 
Yes, by raising more PF.

soah 02-09-2005 03:53 AM

Re: TPTK
 
Uh, you WANT people to play 94o against you.

TheWorstPlayer 02-09-2005 04:41 AM

Re: TPTK
 
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Can this be avoided with short stacks?

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No.

NiceCatch 02-09-2005 12:44 PM

Re: TPTK
 
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Uh, you WANT people to play 94o against you.

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Not if you are going to get stacked when they hit their two-pair, and you hit your A or K. Villain invested an extra dollar for a return of roughly $30. If the villain misses the flop, he's out of the hand. Granted 94o is a little ridiculous... but yeah I agree with previous posters. Make it $3 or $4. I think another issue is, you don't mind one or two players going against you with trash, but with that minraise, you could have had 5 or 6 opponents... was it a really tight table??

Regarding minraises preflop... I usually think of them as protection mechanisms for non-made hands. They build the pot with a favorable drawing hand, but allow you to get away from big bets on the flop, because you have so little invested already.


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