$50 + 5. JJ in BB vs a min-raise
No reads.
9 players left, 15/30 blinds, still lots of hands til 25/50 Relevant chip counts: CO 810 SB 1115 Me 960 Folded to the CO who min raises, Btn calls. What's my line and how do I proceed on the flop, depending on the cards that hit? |
Re: $50 + 5. JJ in BB vs a min-raise
What do you think you should do?
Not trying to be a dick, but it's probably more helpful to talk through it a little... Questions: What does raising accomplish? What about calling? What about your position? How does JJ play 3-way? Do you want to go to war over t150 in L1? |
Re: $50 + 5. JJ in BB vs a min-raise
Wel, I think the best line is probably to call, and see what the flop brings. If there are no overcards, I'll play it strong. If there's one overcard, I may bet around half the pot to try to protect my hand and see if I can take it down there. I don't think its worth risking so many chips by raising and playing OOP, since I think I can find better positions to accumulate chips and outplay people near the bubble.
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Re: $50 + 5. JJ in BB vs a min-raise
why not re-raise here?
you can either take the pot as it is or at the very least gain some info and narrow villains range. I may be wrong, but this seems like the move I would play. |
Re: $50 + 5. JJ in BB vs a min-raise
Reraising bloats the pot ALOT, u reraise to ~150, pot is 150+150+60=360 on flop, at least. Overcard comes on flop ~50%. continuation bet of ~150, u just lost 1/3rd your stack-- if villain hit (1/3rd) of the time. If u have reads, makes hand much better. However, if u flop overpair, you're good, and should go broke with it-- if u reraised. If u want to reraise, pushign would NOT be bad-- if u don't like postflop or can't play a ~600 chip stack.
If both call RERAISE and either an A/K fall, I'M DONE-- CHECK/FOLD. The more and more i think about it, i want to reraise, take impetus, make the continuation bet, and then if they decide to come allong, they are playing for their entire stack. While u can fold and still have ~600 chips after u post SB. Alota rambling, tell me how u guys feel PS: If u want to play it weak, call for set value is fine too. BTW, i'm reraising w/ TT too, but not 99. |
Re: $50 + 5. JJ in BB vs a min-raise
I don't really care to play big pots OOP, so in this case, I'd just call, and see the flop. If it's safe (no AKQ, uncoordinated) I am leading out, or check raising, depending on my mood.
If the flop looks dangerous, I will probably just check, and let it go without a fight if villains decide to get frisky. I might consider leading, but in my experience, betting into a PF minraiser nearly always results in a call. Call me weak/tight, but it's way too early in the tourney for me to go down with JJ. I think people often want to get "paid off" for a PF hand like JJ, but it's really nothing special.... |
Re: $50 + 5. JJ in BB vs a min-raise
I like this post, but you don't think a lead of 1/2 pot into a K or Q high flop won't take it down more than 1/3 of the time?
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Re: $50 + 5. JJ in BB vs a min-raise
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I like this post, but you don't think a lead of 1/2 pot into a K or Q high flop won't take it down more than 1/3 of the time? [/ QUOTE ] Like I said, not if villain minraised PF. In my mind, minraising generally means one of 2 things: Donk, or donk playing aces. I'd expect to be called by the PF minraiser about 80% of the time or so. |
Re: $50 + 5. JJ in BB vs a min-raise
The mini-raise does scare me, I reraise preflop, get it down to heads up.
If the flop come one over I can lead 275 and fold to a raise If flop comes unders lead fold to an All in or large reraise. I dont like Check raiseing an undercard board because Villian will usually bet around 2/3 pot and a reriase = pot commitment. I CR a set. Sound like a decent line? or am I a total donk |
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