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11t 12-29-2005 01:59 PM

($27) - KK line
 
I was wondering what people thought about this line.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

CO (t1400)
Button (t1490)
Hero (t1450)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1680)
MP3 (t1480)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls t20, MP2 calls t20, MP3 calls t20, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls t20, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t120</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t100, MP2 folds, MP3 calls t100, Button calls t100.

Flop: (t520) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t520) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Button checks.

River: (t520) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t250</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t1360</font>, Button folds, Hero calls t1080 (All-In).

Final Pot: t3210

Figured I am WA/WB on the flop and might as well try to give some other hands a chance to catch up.

UMTerp 12-29-2005 02:06 PM

Re: ($27) - KK line
 
Never mind every thing I just wrote... I thought the flop was AA4 - I'm going blind...

11t 12-29-2005 02:06 PM

Re: ($27) - KK line
 
Yah I know the river call is pretty awful

12-29-2005 02:08 PM

Re: ($27) - KK line
 
bet that flop like you own it... t300.

barring that, you have little to go on for the river situation... i don't hate the call, but it'd be easier to lay down if MP3 had called a flop bet.

UMTerp 12-29-2005 02:15 PM

Re: ($27) - KK line
 
You know, I think I'd take the same line whether the flop was AAA or AA4 actually.

Half to 2/3 on the flop, and fold to a raise. Fold to anything resembling significant turn action. Check the river, and pay off a bet up to about half the pot. I still don't like the river call, but it's obviously less bad on an AAA board than if there were only two aces out there.

durron597 12-29-2005 02:31 PM

Re: ($27) - KK line
 
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Yah I know the river call is pretty awful

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What the [censored] dude, you have the second nuts, if a guy was able to slowplay his quads on the turn knowing that I have KK and will pay off with my stack then he is world champion. You than think about folding the river if you have like... 76o.

jmillerdls 12-29-2005 02:32 PM

Re: ($27) - KK line
 
Am I the only one that raises quite a bit more than this preflop?

11t 12-29-2005 02:35 PM

Re: ($27) - KK line
 
Yah that is why I called

yvesaint 12-29-2005 02:39 PM

Re: ($27) - KK line
 
you are going to get so much action from 22-QQ on that flop .....seriously that flop is beautiful. its more like WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWA/WB flop

Jbrochu 12-29-2005 02:40 PM

Re: ($27) - KK line
 
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What the [censored] dude, you have the second nuts, if a guy was able to slowplay his quads on the turn knowing that I have KK and will pay off with my stack then he is world champion.

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I've witnessed this same situation (flop AAA) 4 times, and only once did somebody show the case ace. The other three times two or more opponents got all-in with pocket pairs vs. a paired turn or river.

In this case many players saw the flop, so a laydown is possible, but in no way is it an easy decision.


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