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jj_frap 12-29-2005 04:18 PM

Republican wants Gay-Straight Alliances banned from Utah high schools.
 
http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/ci_3341178

Every day, Utah proves to me that praying to Mormo will not make me as smart as Ken Jennings.

12-29-2005 04:26 PM

Re: Republican wants Gay-Straight Alliances banned from Utah high schools.
 
Sounds VERY enforcable.

How can you ban the drama club?

XxGodJrxX 12-29-2005 04:26 PM

Re: Republican wants Gay-Straight Alliances banned from Utah high scho
 
Ban all clubs to get rid of a gay-straight alliance. Being a student in Utah must be a blast.

ThaSaltCracka 12-29-2005 04:32 PM

Re: Republican wants Gay-Straight Alliances banned from Utah high scho
 
you just have to love Utah

DVaut1 12-29-2005 04:42 PM

Re: Republican wants Gay-Straight Alliances banned from Utah high scho
 
Great quote from the article:

"When attorneys kept warning lawmakers that the law was unconstitutional on its face and would be a waste of money, one legislator was heard to say, "I'm getting sick and tired of this constitutional crap."

Amen, brother. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

BluffTHIS! 12-29-2005 06:35 PM

Re: Republican wants Gay-Straight Alliances banned from Utah high scho
 
Nice distortion to get in an anti-repub comment. Since virtually all Mormons are republicans, then naturally the repub party will be dominant in Utah, and Mormon agenda items will be advanced by the state's repub party, although its positions will not always be, like in this case, national repub policy.

And as far as those gay kids, they are actually being done a favor and learning that they have no future in Utah. What are they going to do when they go into business and are doing the required networking at some function and the inevitable question comes:"what stake do you belong to?". And they reply none because they are unbelievers since the Mormon church looks down on their gay lifestyle. Even if they replied none because they are catholic like me, the result is the same, i.e. you will never be accepted fully in society and will not prosper in business without being Mormon. So better to get the message early and make one of the other 49 states a home.

MMMMMM 12-29-2005 07:36 PM

Re: Republican wants Gay-Straight Alliances banned from Utah high scho
 
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Even if they replied none because they are catholic like me, the result is the same, i.e. you will never be accepted fully in society and will not prosper in business without being Mormon.

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Tangential, but now I'm wondering: might evangelical Christians be an exception to this effective exclusion or not? I'll guess "not"--although I don't really see how the Mormons could claim the evangelical Christians are *wrong*. (The Mormons might claim their Book of Mormon builds on and perhaps even surpasses the Bible, but they can't/don't claim the genuine Bible-thumpers are *wrong*, do they? (and by using the "Bible-thumpers", I mean strictly in the religious, not political, sense).

BluffTHIS! 12-29-2005 08:21 PM

Re: Republican wants Gay-Straight Alliances banned from Utah high scho
 
If you're not Mormon then you're just NOT. Since they use the cultic practice of shunning members, even family, who have left their fold, that should show this point.

ALawPoker 12-29-2005 08:48 PM

Re: Republican wants Gay-Straight Alliances banned from Utah high scho
 
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And as far as those gay kids, they are actually being done a favor and learning that they have no future in Utah. What are they going to do when they go into business and are doing the required networking at some function and the inevitable question comes:"what stake do you belong to?".

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I agree that this post is pretty much a weak jab at the Republicans.... but this justification of it is kind of far-fetched. You're assuming that all the kids will be going into business and will be shunned when that might be true for only a small portion of them. More fundamentally, even if what you say is true, by enacting homophobic policies like this, the state is ensuring that it always will be true. Nobody's being done a favor here.

lastchance 12-29-2005 08:56 PM

Re: Republican wants Gay-Straight Alliances banned from Utah high scho
 
Can we all just agree Mormons suck? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

MMMMMM 12-29-2005 09:03 PM

Re: Republican wants Gay-Straight Alliances banned from Utah high scho
 
Ok, thx 4 the info, I'm not really much familiar with Mormon beliefs/practices/customs.

coffeecrazy1 12-29-2005 10:13 PM

Re: Republican wants Gay-Straight Alliances banned from Utah high scho
 
I'm no expert, but I do know all of us are screwed, since Mormonism strictly forbids, among other things, gambling.
From LDS official website

whiskeytown 12-29-2005 10:23 PM

Re: Republican wants Gay-Straight Alliances banned from Utah high scho
 
with all due respect to religions everywhere -

Mormons are whackos - preys on the weakest and most gullible members of society and if you miss an offering they'll come to your door to see if you want to give.

If you wanna get married - then it's def. the right church - since you can't attain highest levels of heaven without being married - easy to push polygamy on a woman when you convince her she won't reach her full God potential unless she's putting out and having babies.

makes me sick, actually - some mormon chicks are HOT

RB

BluffTHIS! 12-29-2005 10:43 PM

Re: Republican wants Gay-Straight Alliances banned from Utah high scho
 
Unless you are intentionally being misleading, the Mormon Church renounced polygamy in the late 1800s as a result of court decisions and as a condition of the admission of Utah into the union (the prophet of the council of 12 had message from God to do it they claim). There are only some very small splinter sects that still practice it.

TheHammer24 12-30-2005 02:35 AM

Re: Republican wants Gay-Straight Alliances banned from Utah high scho
 
Mormons renounce Caffiene. As a centrist right republican I do not understand the homophobic attitude. Ostrocizing one sexual orientation for no legitimate reason can draw comparisons to the Germans otrocizing Jews because they are a different religion.

The ambitious politicians in Utah are clearly pursuing a religous agenda, which is ok if that's what the constituents want, however, this law is so clearly unconstitutional it makes Plessy v. Ferguson look logical.

Cyrus 12-30-2005 03:45 AM

Laywers Love Utah
 
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You just have to love Utah.

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[The] ill-advised legislation, which if passed will cost the state a bundle of money in litigation, is deja vu for the Utah Legislature. Its outcome will be no different than when the Legislature passed a law in the 1980s to regulate the content of subscription cable television programming, which eventually cost Utah taxpayers about $2 million before it was struck down by the courts.

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ThaSaltCracka 12-30-2005 11:49 AM

Re: Laywers Love Utah
 
yeah.....it was sarcasm.... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

jj_frap 12-31-2005 10:10 AM

Re: Republican wants Gay-Straight Alliances banned from Utah high scho
 
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Mormons renounce Caffiene. As a centrist right republican I do not understand the homophobic attitude. Ostrocizing one sexual orientation for no legitimate reason can draw comparisons to the Germans otrocizing Jews because they are a different religion.

The ambitious politicians in Utah are clearly pursuing a religous agenda, which is ok if that's what the constituents want, however, this law is so clearly unconstitutional it makes Plessy v. Ferguson look logical.

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Your choice of political affiliation is forgiven because you're a Penguins fan. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]


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