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ThaSaltCracka 11-02-2005 03:56 PM

Fantasy NBA Picks
 
I have my draft tomorrow, need some guidance. Whom should I avoid, both early and entirely. Gimme some sleeper picks, mid to late round guys.

Also, I want to see some peoples top 3 picks. Not OVERALL, just imagine if you were drafting. Who would you like to see still around for your 2nd and 3rd picks. league is 9, perhaps 10 teams.

Shajen 11-02-2005 04:02 PM

Re: Fantasy NBA Picks
 
Carmelo Anthony
Joe Johnson


(I rate Carmelo as a second tier guy until he proves himself in the league. He's had some breakout moments, but seems to wear down during the season. Take what I say with a grain of salt though, I don't watch too much NBA)

Phoenix1010 11-02-2005 04:21 PM

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Vince Carter, Ron Artest. Ironically, I picked these guys by mistake with my first and second picks, but I think I may have made up for it by getting Webber much later than expected.

Hornacek 11-02-2005 04:53 PM

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Elton Brand
Brad Miller

ThaSaltCracka 11-02-2005 04:58 PM

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How late of a pick was Carter?

JcTc 11-02-2005 06:02 PM

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How late of a pick was Carter?

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If I recall correctly Phoenix picked him #13 (1st pick of the 2nd round) in our "fun" 2+2 draft. But apparently he was accidently only looking at best available SFs rather than all players available. This being said, he is still a mid-late 2nd round pick, so the pick wasn't terrible.

Stay away from: Jermaine O'Neal early (low FG% for a big man), Q. Rich until late rounds.

Elton Brand is a 20/10/2.5 stud with good %. I would not avoid him.

Popinjay 11-02-2005 06:24 PM

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Vince Carter, Ron Artest. Ironically, I picked these guys by mistake with my first and second picks, but I think I may have made up for it by getting Webber much later than expected.

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What's wrong with Ron? He will put up incredible numbers IMO. Of course there's the psycho factor getting him suspended again but really... could that happen again!?

Phoenix1010 11-02-2005 06:33 PM

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Vince Carter, Ron Artest. Ironically, I picked these guys by mistake with my first and second picks, but I think I may have made up for it by getting Webber much later than expected.

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What's wrong with Ron? He will put up incredible numbers IMO. Of course there's the psycho factor getting him suspended again but really... could that happen again!?

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No no, Ron is going to be a stud and I'm glad I got him. I picked him with the 12th or 13th pick though which is probably a full round higher than he should have gone. He's kind of a gamble, he could become a top ten player or he could just bust out. If he does what he did at the beginning of last year I'll look like a genius, but it would probably be smarter to spend your top picks on a surer thing.

11-02-2005 07:24 PM

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Jermaine O'Neal will be C eligible soon so he's a good pick anytime after the second round. Same goes for Tyson Chandler, though you should be able to get him even deeper in the draft.

morello 11-02-2005 07:30 PM

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Use the tool at Basketball Monster to help your decisions.

Make sure you don't draft guys who put up numbers in 'sexy' stat categories but kill you with turnovers, low fg%, etc (I'm talking to you, Steve Francis!).

I was able to pick up Webber in the 8th round in my Yahoo league. After his monster game last night, that might not be possible.

Donyell Marshall is always an efficient all around player, and will usually be available mid-late. Others in this category are Drew Gooden, Raef Lafrentz, and Shane Battier.

Phoenix1010 11-02-2005 09:16 PM

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Vince Carter, Ron Artest. Ironically, I picked these guys by mistake with my first and second picks, but I think I may have made up for it by getting Webber much later than expected.

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What's wrong with Ron? He will put up incredible numbers IMO. Of course there's the psycho factor getting him suspended again but really... could that happen again!?

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No no, Ron is going to be a stud and I'm glad I got him. I picked him with the 12th or 13th pick though which is probably a full round higher than he should have gone. He's kind of a gamble, he could become a top ten player or he could just bust out. If he does what he did at the beginning of last year I'll look like a genius, but it would probably be smarter to spend your top picks on a surer thing.

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Grrreat first half.

Clarkmeister 11-02-2005 11:32 PM

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Use the tool at Basketball Monster to help your decisions.

Make sure you don't draft guys who put up numbers in 'sexy' stat categories but kill you with turnovers, low fg%, etc (I'm talking to you, Steve Francis!).

I was able to pick up Webber in the 8th round in my Yahoo league. After his monster game last night, that might not be possible.

Donyell Marshall is always an efficient all around player, and will usually be available mid-late. Others in this category are Drew Gooden, Raef Lafrentz, and Shane Battier.

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disjunction 11-03-2005 12:04 AM

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Hard to name sleepers because it depends on your opponents' home cities. First 3 picks are usually obvious. I stayed away from Marbury because I don't trust Larry Brown with fantasy players. For similar reasons you might like Detroit and Memphis players. My draft: which seemed good at the time but I now I have my doubts. 10-team league, I had first pick courtesy of winning the league last year:

1. Lebron
20. Baron Davis
21. Bosh
40. Maggette
41. Richardson
60. Odom (I'm happy with this one)
61. K. Thomas (I'm worried by his PT last night)
80. Nelson (didn't know he's not starting)
81. Hill (I like the idea of having him and a Magic player)
100. Dalembert
101. G. Wallace (lots of good categories
120. R. Davis (off to a great start, but T.J. Ford would have been a nice pick too).

UCF THAYER 11-03-2005 12:38 AM

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Hard to name sleepers because it depends on your opponents' home cities. First 3 picks are usually obvious. I stayed away from Marbury because I don't trust Larry Brown with fantasy players. For similar reasons you might like Detroit and Memphis players. My draft: which seemed good at the time but I now I have my doubts. 10-team league, I had first pick courtesy of winning the league last year:

1. Lebron
20. Baron Davis
21. Bosh
40. Maggette
41. Richardson
60. Odom (I'm happy with this one)
61. K. Thomas (I'm worried by his PT last night)
80. Nelson (didn't know he's not starting)
81. Hill (I like the idea of having him and a Magic player)
100. Dalembert
101. G. Wallace (lots of good categories
120. R. Davis (off to a great start, but T.J. Ford would have been a nice pick too).

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Who's Nelson, and why did you take him with your 8th pick?

Phoenix1010 11-03-2005 02:01 AM

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Jameer Nelson, NCAA player of the year two years ago.

disjunction 11-03-2005 08:16 AM

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Jameer Nelson, NCAA player of the year two years ago.

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Yeah, as I recall he had a big April.

But he didn't start last night, even with Grant Hill out. What do you think of panicking and dropping him for TJ Ford?

UCF THAYER 11-03-2005 12:41 PM

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Jameer Nelson, NCAA player of the year two years ago.

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Yeah, as I recall he had a big April.

But he didn't start last night, even with Grant Hill out. What do you think of panicking and dropping him for TJ Ford?

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But why did you draft him with your 8th pick?
I'm pretty sure he went undrafted in most leagues?

Popinjay 11-03-2005 01:08 PM

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Some guys that have shown they are worth more than their pre-season draft ranking displayed are:

Richard Hamilton -- huge points with the new flex offense

Sam Cassell -- he's established himself as leader and is shooting a ton of shots

Antoine Walker -- probably a fluke game but put up some great #'s

Darius Miles -- probably another fluke game but had an insane line last night

Gerald Wallace -- he was playing Chicago and is known to be streaky so take that into consideration

Bonzi Wells -- Sacramento looks crappy and he had a ton of rebounds for them last night

A guy you might want to avoid is T-mac. He is somewhat injured and a risk.

Hornacek 11-03-2005 01:20 PM

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Some guys that have shown they are worth more than their pre-season draft ranking displayed are:

Richard Hamilton -- huge points with the new flex offense

Sam Cassell -- he's established himself as leader and is shooting a ton of shots

Antoine Walker -- probably a fluke game but put up some great #'s

Darius Miles -- probably another fluke game but had an insane line last night

Gerald Wallace -- he was playing Chicago and is known to be streaky so take that into consideration

Bonzi Wells -- Sacramento looks crappy and he had a ton of rebounds for them last night

A guy you might want to avoid is T-mac. He is somewhat injured and a risk.

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[X] Your sample size is too small.

disjunction 11-03-2005 01:50 PM

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But why did you draft him with your 8th pick?
I'm pretty sure he went undrafted in most leagues?

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Yeah, I probably messed up. My list was a mixture of the Yahoo! default list and the top 100 of "Brandon Furston" on Yahoo!, whoever that is. He had Nelson at 60, and then I saw that another analyst had a positive commentary (15/5/5, 1.7 steals, and 48% shooting in April), and I remember wanting to pick him up last April, so I just went with it. But now I just discovered that this second source was same Brandon Furston, oh well. I just dropped Nelson for TJ Ford.

My full composite list is below if anybody wants to make use of it. Disclaimers: (1) I don't vouch for it, I only spent a couple of hours on it, and I'm sure there are a lot of flaws and logical errors. (2) I didn't pay much attention to ranking early round players I definitely wasn't going to get with my draft position (Kirilenko, etc). (3) There's a secret sauce which I won't talk about, is relevant to everyone's leagues, and altered my rankings a little. (4) Also, turnovers are a category in my league.

1. L. James
2. K. Garnett
3. S. Marion
4. D. Nowitzki
5. T. Duncan
6. K. Bryant
7. D. Wade
8. T. McGrady
9. A. Kirilenko
10. S. Nash
11. G. Arenas
12. A. Iverson
13. J. Kidd
14. V. Carter
15. B. Davis
16. J. O'Neal
17. E. Brand
18. Y. Ming
19. R. Allen
20. C. Bosh
21. B. Miller
22. M. Bibby
23. S. Francis
24. L. Hughes
25. R. Artest
26. S. Marbury
27. P. Stojakovic
28. P. Pierce
29. R. Lewis
30. R. Jefferson
31. S. O'Neal
32. D. Howard
33. C. Maggette
34. M. Ginobili
35. J. Johnson
36. P. Gasol
37. J. Richardson
38. L. Odom
39. C. Anthony
40. E. Okafor
41. C. Billups
42. Ku. Thomas
43. B. Wallace
44. Z. Ilgauskas
45. R. Wallace
46. K. Hinrich
47. A. Iguodala
48. A. Miller
49. R. Hamilton
50. M. Redd
51. Z. Randolph
52. K. Martin
53. C. Boozer
54. J. Terry
55. J. Nelson
56. A. Jamison
57. C. Webber
58. D. Marshall
59. B. Simmons
60. T. Parker
61. C. Mobley
62. J. Smith
63. G. Hill
64. D. Stoudamire
65. T. Chandler
66. T. Prince
67. T. Murphy
68. S. Abdur-Rahim
69. C. Butler
70. K. Korver
71. L. Ridnour
72. S. Jackson
73. G. Wallace
74. R. Davis
75. R. Alston
76. S. Dalembert
77. J. Crawford
78. J. Howard
79. R. LaFrentz
80. J. Rose
81. J. Przybilla
82. D. Gooden
83. A. Walker
84. Q. Richardson
85. J. Childress
86. S. Cassell
87. A. Jefferson
88. E. Curry
89. A. Stoudemire
90. M. Camby
91. M. Okur
92. S. Swift
93. W. Szczerbiak
94. A. Bogut
95. B. Gordon
96. A. Harrington
97. P. Brezec
98. T. Ford
99. D. Miles
100. M. Dunleavy
101. M. Miller
102. M. Peterson
103. N. Krstic
104. C. Villanueva
105. J. Smith
106. M. Jaric
107. S. Livingston
108. S. Claxton
109. J. Williams
110. J. Magloire
111. C. Paul
112. M. Harpring
113. J. Tinsley
114. B. Wells
115. B. Sura
116. P. Brown
117. S. Battier
118. N. Hilario
119. D. Mason
120. Ke. Thomas


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