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whittiphil 11-17-2005 05:10 PM

AA facing flop raise allin (?!)
 
I have no reads on this guy, and my default line vs an allin like this is "he has a high pair, he's kinda panicking, buy my high pair is highest". Is this dumb?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) converter

SB ($101.80)
Hero ($103)
UTG ($68.45)
MP ($27.20)
CO ($27.95)
Button ($6.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $13</font>, MP folds, SB calls $8.

Flop: ($27) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $88.8</font>, Hero calls $63.80.

Turn: ($204.60) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($204.60) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $204.60

yvesaint 11-17-2005 05:11 PM

Re: AA facing flop raise allin (?!)
 
raise more pre-flop, to at least 15 ... then you can call his check-raise, especially with the Ah

Morrek 11-17-2005 05:13 PM

Re: AA facing flop raise allin (?!)
 
I would consider reraising more preflop, otherwise looks fine.
Unless he raises alot preflop to steal blinds or isolate I don't think you have to fear too many sets right here, 77 maybe. And you're owning 88+ and whatever draws he could possibly do this with

whittiphil 11-17-2005 05:16 PM

Re: AA facing flop raise allin (?!)
 
I think a higher reraise preflop is correct, I have trouble doing this with AA because I want them to stay in the hand, but you are correct about reverse implied odds.

yvesaint 11-17-2005 05:19 PM

Re: AA facing flop raise allin (?!)
 
yea and this flop is pretty much gold for you, he rarely has 77 (no reads, unless he's very aggro, most people dont raise 77 from the blinds), but he will have KK-99 a huge % of the time

xorbie 11-17-2005 05:20 PM

Re: AA facing flop raise allin (?!)
 
Easy as balls call.

RubbleRobble 11-17-2005 05:22 PM

Re: AA facing flop raise allin (?!)
 
"I think a higher reraise preflop is correct, I have trouble doing this with AA because I want them to stay in the hand..."

This is a REALLY bad thought process to have. Just because you have the hand with the highest win% in the game, DO NOT bet less than you should in an effort to keep your opponent in the hand. Lowering your bet from 15 (18 I think would be best here) is giving your opponent an even better price to play. Why do that? I know how it feels to have AA and drag a $.000000001 pot, but its better than letting them drag your stack.

Bet 18 pf and don't be scared about getting your $ in with that flop. you should be golden.

amoeba 11-17-2005 05:22 PM

Re: AA facing flop raise allin (?!)
 
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I think a higher reraise preflop is correct, I have trouble doing this with AA because I want them to stay in the hand, but you are correct about reverse implied odds.

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with all things of this nature, the solution is to reraise with a wider range and not reraising less money wise.

whittiphil 11-17-2005 05:23 PM

Re: AA facing flop raise allin (?!)
 
Good points actually, I hate picking up $5 with AA, but I really hate losing my stack with it.

the machine 11-17-2005 05:44 PM

Re: AA facing flop raise allin (?!)
 
just had the exact hand and same rank flop except villain limped pf. went 5x bb though pf. he checked i bet he donk raised i reraised he pushed i called. 77 is a winner, but i still call everytime

did he have 77 too????


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