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MJL 09-08-2005 09:07 AM

Do you fire one more time for value?
 
$5/10 just sat down. Two key players this hand.Older guy I've seen before seems tight passive (TP)and a young guy just showed down a J6 suited in LP.

I'm big blind. 3 limpers then TP raises. MP calls all including small blind fold to me. I have 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] I call. The limpers do what I expect and call.

6 to the flop 12BB.
K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

We check to raiser. He bets, LP calls, I call and one limper calls.

4 players 8BB
Turn T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I check limper checks TP bets LP calls I raise. The limper and TP folds.

Heads up with LP 13BB
River is a small[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I bet here but questioned if I should. It was very likely LP had a K, but he could have a T with a better kicker or very possibly chased the flush.

Would you have bet for value?

Nick Royale 09-08-2005 09:12 AM

Re: Do you fire one more time for value?
 
You have no reads on this player, betting this river is easily for value. The only vague read you have supports a bet...

TheHammer24 09-08-2005 09:33 AM

Re: Do you fire one more time for value?
 
If this guy showed down J6 it's an easy bet/fold. If he is a passive player all the hands he raises you with beat you T with a better kicker and the flush. Unless, you think he would raise with a K or bluff raise, unlikley, it is a bet/fold, otherwise check call.

MainEvent 09-08-2005 09:43 AM

Re: Do you fire one more time for value?
 
I'd play this as a bet/call. Checking without any solid reads just seems like missing potential bets. Folding the river after you bet and LP raises in a decent sized pot (again with no strong reads) seems wrong as well.

Nick Royale 09-08-2005 09:45 AM

Re: Do you fire one more time for value?
 
[ QUOTE ]
If this guy showed down J6 it's an easy bet/fold. If he is a passive player all the hands he raises you with beat you T with a better kicker and the flush. Unless, you think he would raise with a K or bluff raise, unlikley, it is a bet/fold, otherwise check call.

[/ QUOTE ]
Folding trip tens on the river for 1BB in a 16BB pot? Your read have to be pretty damn good. The read on villain is way too vague to bet/fold this river. What does the fact that he showed down J6s tell us? Nothing about if he's passive and his ability to bluff...


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