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ChuckyB 12-02-2005 03:36 PM

What\'s the most you\'ve won when flopping quads...
 
...with three of a kind on the flop?

I just about pooed myself and wondered if I would get paid off. I really did. Typical 3/6 casino game...too many see the flop, too many pay off. SB on my left is loose-aggressive but not good. Made some real questionable river raises so I felt the smooth call on the river would be raised.

3/6 B&M game last night. 10 players.

4 callers, 2 folds, Hero calls from button with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB raises, BB calls, 4 limpers call. Hero calls.

Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7 players/14 SB)

Checked around.

Turn: T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7 players/ 6.5 BB)

Check, Check, bet, call, call, Hero calls, SB calls, 2 folds

River: Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players/11.5 BB)

SB check, BB checks, Check, bet, hero calls, SB raises, fold, fold, call, Hero 3-bets, SB calls, call.

<font color="blue">Final Pot: 20.5 BB
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Hero shows [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

shant 12-02-2005 03:55 PM

Re: What\'s the most you\'ve won when flopping quads...
 
Easy flop bet.

12-02-2005 04:10 PM

Re: What\'s the most you\'ve won when flopping quads...
 
i just posted about this a few weeks ago, i had A6 of diamonds and flop was AAA. someone hit a flush on the river, i picked up 16.25BB.

if you bet the flop they'll all just fold probably. also i was OOP in mine so it was annoying, i couldn't trap many bets.

krishanleong 12-02-2005 04:15 PM

Re: What\'s the most you\'ve won when flopping quads...
 
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Easy flop bet.

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People who never slowplay make me laugh a little.

Krishan

Diplomat 12-02-2005 04:20 PM

Re: What\'s the most you\'ve won when flopping quads...
 
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Easy flop bet.

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No, but easy turn raise.

-Diplomat

ChuckyB 12-02-2005 05:40 PM

Re: What\'s the most you\'ve won when flopping quads...
 
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Easy flop bet.

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No, but easy turn raise.

-Diplomat

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I wondered about when to show my stuff, especially against players that are just terrible. Would a flop bet look like a steal, or would they all pee themselves and go running? And if I bet the flop, I'm probably limiting any action after I raise the next time. And certainly 9 BBs wouldn't have gone in on the river.

Players were cold-calling turn raises and paying off everywhere so I wanted to keep everyone around to hit their boats.

The turn raise might have been a good idea. Overcards to the T would have hung around. But if something under a T comes out on the river, I'll get no action (unless a T, JJ, QQ, KK is out there. But I'd have heard from those pre-flop or on the turn).

ChuckyB 12-02-2005 05:46 PM

Re: What\'s the most you\'ve won when flopping quads...
 
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Easy flop bet.

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No, but easy turn raise.

-Diplomat

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Trying to do the math on the turn raise...

6.5 BB after flop check-around.

Bet, call, call, Hero raises, (SB probably folds facing 2 cold, but he sucks so ??), fold, fold, call, call, call.

14.5 BB after turn betting.

Now I'm up against three players and none of the passives are going to be into me. My only real hope to beat 20.5 BB would be if the player on my immediate right tries to check-raise me with a Queen trapping all the others. But I didn't see anyone willing to do that. The only other two people who had check-raised at the table were out already.

IndieMatty 12-02-2005 05:51 PM

Re: What\'s the most you\'ve won when flopping quads...
 
Whoever my opponent was last night who rivered quads when every street was capped with another set, and me with the nut flush.

ChuckyB 12-02-2005 05:54 PM

Re: What\'s the most you\'ve won when flopping quads...
 
So it'll be 9 years before I flop quads like this again so I'll ask a more general question...

Against a table of bad players who are mostly loose-passive with a couple of loose-aggressives...when will you show aggression if you have a monster?

Do you do it on the turn and build a pot huge enough that everyone has to call (even though they may not understand that they <u>HAVE</u> to to call)? Or should you wait for the river?

If the SB or BB had bet out on the turn, I would certainly would have raised from the button...'cause then I'd have the field trapped and then get them again, and hopefully check-raised on the river. But with the bet coming from the middle on the turn and on my right on the river, I felt going slow was the best.

12-02-2005 07:01 PM

Re: What\'s the most you\'ve won when flopping quads...
 
Not a whole lot, but I did win a $50 heads up match with a turned Royal.

I went to the casino on Wednesday and a dude there who's a regular player (and very credible with his stories considering other people at the casino were able to back them up) told us about his $5k flopped quads in Tahoe.

He had 77's, and some ridiculous $15k stack at $5/10 NL NL buy in table made it 75 to go, Mr. 77 calls. Flop comes 772, $15k stack goes all in. Mr. 77, of course, calls and takes $5k against the big-stack's AA.

Interestingly enough, about an hour after he tells me the story I flop quad ducks, only the third time I have flopped quads live. I showed no aggression pre-flop since I was BB with ducks, and thus I couldn't show aggression on the flop... yeah, call me what you will, but when I flop quads in a multiway pot or heads up when I've shown pre-flop aggression, I will always bet quads because people can't believe I'd bet such a big hand, so they think I didn't get a piece of a say... 663 flop. Being a mostly heads up player for the last 2 years means I see about 250-400 hands/hour, so i've flopped a lot of quads.

Anyway, there were 5 people in the pot, I check the flop... no action (622 flop or something like that), the turn is whatever it is (not like I cared I had quads), I put out a $10 bet into a $27 dollar pot and everyone folds. I flip over my quads and proclaim my hatred for everyone at the table.

12-02-2005 07:05 PM

Re: What\'s the most you\'ve won when flopping quads...
 
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Easy flop bet.

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No, but easy turn raise.

-Diplomat

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I wondered about when to show my stuff, especially against players that are just terrible. Would a flop bet look like a steal, or would they all pee themselves and go running? And if I bet the flop, I'm probably limiting any action after I raise the next time. And certainly 9 BBs wouldn't have gone in on the river.

Players were cold-calling turn raises and paying off everywhere so I wanted to keep everyone around to hit their boats.

The turn raise might have been a good idea. Overcards to the T would have hung around. But if something under a T comes out on the river, I'll get no action (unless a T, JJ, QQ, KK is out there. But I'd have heard from those pre-flop or on the turn).

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I love betting that flop. It looks just like a steal because the blank mass that I like to call the "unimaginative mass of poker players," loves to think that everyone plays the say and that no one would bet quads. If you get raised, call it on the flop and c/r them on the turn.

ChuckyB 12-02-2005 08:13 PM

Re: What\'s the most you\'ve won when flopping quads...
 
So you make it a rule to play any flop (even a monster) aggressively when you've taken the lead pre-flop?

ChuckyB 12-02-2005 08:17 PM

Re: What\'s the most you\'ve won when flopping quads...
 
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I love betting that flop. It looks just like a steal because the blank mass that I like to call the "unimaginative mass of poker players," loves to think that everyone plays the say and that no one would bet quads. If you get raised, call it on the flop and c/r them on the turn.

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I like the thought of the fake-steal-smooth-call-a-raise play.

I would've loved a check-raise, but I was on the button and the action man was in the SB. I needed him to bet out. He raised the river so I got him that way.

kurosh 12-02-2005 09:02 PM

Re: What\'s the most you\'ve won when flopping quads...
 
I once capped every street with flopped quads. I had TT and the flop was TT7. He had 77. He said he didn't think anyone would play a boat or quads that fast. Slowplaying is for fish.

Vavavoom 12-03-2005 04:10 PM

Re: What\'s the most you\'ve won when flopping quads...
 
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What's the most you've won when flopping quads

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB ($375.90)
BB ($184.35)
Hero ($113)
MP1 ($182.35)
MP2 ($71.70)
CO ($230.10)
Button ($236)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6, 6.
Hero calls $2, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $6, 3 folds, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($15) 6, 9, 6 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks.

Turn: ($15) 5 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP2 bets $6, SB calls $6, Hero calls $6.

River: ($33) 2 (3 players)
SB bets $12, Hero raises to $40, MP2 folds, SB raises to $363.9, Hero calls $61 (All-In).

Final Pot: $497.90

Results in white below:
SB has 9d 9c (full house, nines full of sixes).
Hero has 6h 6d (four of a kind, sixes).
Outcome: SB wins $262.90. Hero wins $235.

tripdad 12-03-2005 04:43 PM

Re: What\'s the most you\'ve won when flopping quads...
 
the most i've won woith quads is $228.00 when i flopped quad 9's vs. Q's full of nines, but this hand was quite satisfying, as my opponent was the aggressor by far, and only had Ace high.

***** Hand History for Game 2041054171 *****
$200 PL Hold'em - Friday, May 13, 00:30:03 EDT 2005
Table Table 36626 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 3: whonosit ( $164.65 )
Seat 4: jank_SEE ( $206.85 )
Seat 5: BIGSWEDE_2 ( $418.5 )
Seat 6: b_u_c_k ( $183.1 )
Seat 7: dlkane05 ( $156.54 )
Seat 8: MagicSpartn ( $318.35 )
Seat 2: dima22 ( $155.55 )
Seat 1: TomNemo ( $207.15 )
Seat 10: l_WENergy_l ( $62 )
Seat 9: holdemking88 ( $194 )
whonosit posts small blind [$1].
jank_SEE posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to jank_SEE [ 8s 8c ]
&gt;You have options at Table 12753 Table!.
b_u_c_k folds.
dlkane05 folds.
MagicSpartn raises [$7].
holdemking88 folds.
l_WENergy_l folds.
TomNemo folds.
dima22 folds.
whonosit calls [$6].
jank_SEE calls [$5].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2s, Qs, 8d ]
whonosit bets [$15].
&gt;You have options at Table 12753 Table!.
jank_SEE raises [$45].
MagicSpartn folds.
whonosit calls [$30].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8h ]
whonosit bets [$25].
&gt;You have options at Table 12753 Table!.
jank_SEE calls [$25].
** Dealing River ** [ 3h ]
whonosit is all-In.
jank_SEE calls [$87.65].
whonosit shows [ As, Ks ] a pair of eights.
jank_SEE shows [ 8s, 8c ] four of a kind, eights.
jank_SEE wins $333.3 from the main pot with four of a kind, eights.
&gt;You have options at Table 36583 Table!.

tripdad


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