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12-19-2005 05:16 PM

$22: BB, push preflop or check and push the flop?
 
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (5 handed) converter

Hero (t1238)
UTG (t1218)
MP (t1031)
Button (t1308)
SB (t3205)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

UTG limps. Folds to me in BB. Push now, or check and push any flop? Or check and push any favorable flop?

12-19-2005 05:19 PM

Re: $22: BB, push preflop or check and push the flop?
 
push

12-19-2005 05:27 PM

Re: $22: BB, push preflop or check and push the flop?
 
I'm going to have to agree, unless there is some table dynamic that you've noticed: like their all super-tight and you can bully later, and UTG has been known to limp with Big pairs. Other than that I like the pf push.

12-19-2005 05:27 PM

Re: $22: BB, push preflop or check and push the flop?
 
do not hesitate.

poooosh.

gladly.

12-19-2005 05:30 PM

Re: $22: BB, push preflop or check and push the flop?
 
Thanks everyone. I did push, but let self-doubt creep in a little based on the result.

12-19-2005 05:38 PM

Re: $22: BB, push preflop or check and push the flop?
 
I think I would have checked and see a flop and play from there. Push may be as good, but why would UTG limp if he doesn't want to call an all-in? Still not sure... both options looks good to me.

jedinite 12-19-2005 06:18 PM

Re: $22: BB, push preflop or check and push the flop?
 
For argument's sake, limping aces or kings here is often a +EV play against known pushbots. If your opponent has demonstrated smarts and pushbot ability, I'm very wary of the open limp on/near the bubble, especially when you know they know they should be pushing instead. Something I really had to watch when multitabling, and something I've done to effect against other multitablers who might not take the time to make the read.

If they're just a typical $22 player, then its an easy pooosh. Blinds are ridiculously high with stacks this equal with five remaining.

Scuba Chuck 12-19-2005 06:21 PM

Re: $22: BB, push preflop or check and push the flop?
 
Here's a thought.

When someone limps in 1/6 of their stack UTG in this situation, how often are they folding to a push?

pineapple888 12-19-2005 06:27 PM

Re: $22: BB, push preflop or check and push the flop?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Here's a thought.

When someone limps in 1/6 of their stack UTG in this situation, how often are they folding to a push?

[/ QUOTE ]

Highly read-dependent, but it's not especially unusual at the 22s. With the blinds this high, I'll push and take my chances.


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