Stars $11 rebuy final table hand, reasonable, or awful?
 

I play lots of sng's, and have been playing lots of MTT's the last few weeks. I've had a fair amount of success, but botched my share also. Usually I know when I botch a hand, but I'm just not sure what to make of this one? So, reasonable play, or hopelessly wreckless?

Steve

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20000 (8 handed) converter

MP2 (t337307)
CO (t187040)
Button (t195664)
SB (t249983)
Hero (t194965)
UTG (t292280)
UTG+1 (t180300)
MP1 (t607961)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t40000</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls t40000, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t20000.

Flop: (t138000) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t60000</font>, Hero calls t60000, MP2 folds.

Turn: (t258000) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t93965 (All-In)</font>, Button calls t93965.

River: (t445930) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t414930

Re: Stars $11 rebuy final table hand, reasonable, or awful?
 

I would fold preflop.

On the flop, I'd either push or fold, probably push since I'm tied for last and need good things to happen for me to get in the big money (6th or 8th doesn't make much difference. Top 3 is where we wanna be)

Re: Stars $11 rebuy final table hand, reasonable, or awful?
 

I usually call with a fairly wide range of hands from the BB to a min raise, just because with ante's etc the odds are good to see the flop. Here I was getting 6 to 1 to see the flop. Is that the wrong way to look at the situation?

Re: Stars $11 rebuy final table hand, reasonable, or awful?
 

I dunno [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I don't use pot odds that much late in a tourney because the blinds are so big that I often can't afford to see flops even if I get pot odds.

Your hand is a good example of that. Maybe you have odds to call both pre- and postflop but nevertheless it costs you 40% of your stack.

But hey, what do I know? Let's hear what the big boys say [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Re: Stars $11 rebuy final table hand, reasonable, or awful?
 

I highly dislike the cold call of the raise preflop and the call post flop

having said that, you hit the best possible draw you could probably hope for, and you just check/call again -

if you've decided to go broke on a flush draw - get all in as soon as it's there - weaker hands will just let it go - and you're going to go broke anyways if you're all in before the last card, so why not try to drive them out and get the blinds -

if you hit - you're fine -

RB

Re: Stars $11 rebuy final table hand, reasonable, or awful?
 

I'm not a expert in these, but -

1) I think your preflop call is normal
2) I like pushing or check-raising all in on the FLOP, if you are going to commit your chips here - sure it's gambling, but if so, get the extra value of folding equity

Re: Stars $11 rebuy final table hand, reasonable, or awful?
 

Late in tournament, I never ever limp. Either I think I have the best and push, or I fold. Remember that these tournaments are very different from TV tournaments like WPT and WSOP, where even the shortest stack might gave 15BB. As a short stack, its raise or fold, limping is never correct.

In this pot I would fold preflop with that awful hand, but if I had limped and saw that flop I would immediately move all-in.

Limping and then calling with that hand is very weak play in my opinion.

Re: Stars $11 rebuy final table hand, reasonable, or awful?
 

I'd push the flop. You have zero folding equity on the turn with your line.

Re: Stars $11 rebuy final table hand, reasonable, or awful?
 

At a final table where you have a 10x stack, calling a min raise with a sooted J is no good. You can't afford to be bleeding off chips on longshots at this point, even with those pot odds. That said, push or fold the flop.

Re: Stars $11 rebuy final table hand, reasonable, or awful?
 

Read dependant whether you want to call preflop. You have to decide if these are opponents you can push off a hand.

On the flop, you must push (because if you weren't willing to push this flop, you should have folded to begin with).