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joshgill17 12-19-2005 06:39 PM

Re: floped a set...time to get paid
 
As played I would of checked behind on the turn. Villian's play screams of AK. I would give him the opportunity to bluff the river, and if an Ace or King hits he will pay you off anyways. If he has the overpair he is leading the river. The turn bet is solid but i've been incorporating this line a little more in my play lately.

soah 12-19-2005 07:40 PM

Re: floped a set...time to get paid
 
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I raise flop to 100 but they way you played it is OK too since there is no flush draw. But I still dont like it becuase some1 may call with gutshot and stack you.

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I don't see it as a bad thing if someone makes a -EV chase against me...

waveball 12-19-2005 08:07 PM

Re: floped a set...time to get paid
 
Dont mean to hijack this thread..but his heroes's cold call prefolp standard?

Ghazban 12-19-2005 08:16 PM

Re: floped a set...time to get paid
 
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Dont mean to hijack this thread..but his heroes's cold call prefolp standard?

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yes

OneCentRob 12-19-2005 08:21 PM

Re: floped a set...time to get paid
 
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As played I would of checked behind on the turn. Villian's play screams of AK. I would give him the opportunity to bluff the river, and if an Ace or King hits he will pay you off anyways. If he has the overpair he is leading the river. The turn bet is solid but i've been incorporating this line a little more in my play lately.

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I agree with this. For me, betting the turn is the same as raising the flop. This turn is a blank and can't have helped him. If you thought he would call this turn bet you should have raised the flop. But as you didn't, you must now check the blank turn. If he has a big pair he is betting out on the river anyway and you can raise him. If he has AK (which looks likely) he might either catch up or try a bluff on the river.
Check the turn. If he checks to you again on the river put in a small bet and hope to get raised.

By the way, am I the only person who wasn't too keen on hero's preflop call? I don't know what you knew about UTG+1 (original raiser) but you were in danger of getting squeezed between the two raisers which is a nasty spot to be in with a small pocket pair.

FlyingStart 12-19-2005 08:52 PM

Re: floped a set...time to get paid
 
"hope to get raised"

Dude, this is how a fish thinks. It's passive and it's bad.

The call on the flop is to keep others in the pot.

Gregg777 12-19-2005 10:35 PM

Re: floped a set...time to get paid
 
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$30 is minimum I can raise man.

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I was kidding.

BTW, I agree with Rob, if you raise the flop and the turn blanks, check and hope he leads the river, if not, bet at least half the pot.

This line wins more for me than calling flop, betting blank turn. (Only in regards to this specific preflop/flop action and board texture.)

OneCentRob 12-20-2005 12:23 PM

Re: floped a set...time to get paid
 
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"hope to get raised"

Dude, this is how a fish thinks. It's passive and it's bad.

The call on the flop is to keep others in the pot.

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If he has raised preflop, put in what looks like a standard continuation bet on the flop and then checked the turn and the river, are you telling me that you would put in a big bet on the river? What are you hoping to acheive other than making him fold his overcards?

Hattifnatt 12-20-2005 12:25 PM

Re: floped a set...time to get paid
 
Make it 95 on the flop.


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