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KaneKungFu123 10-29-2005 11:07 AM

Not being able to play a complete game...
 
GoG plays what i would consider a complete TAG game. He doesn't get out of line too often, but is not ABC. He can balance every situation at every point in the hand. I remember talking to Yeti once and he said (talking of Diablo/GoG) "Those guys always know what to do".

GoG plays from the inside out. The best example of this I can think of is in chess. In chess, the best players play from the middle of the board and play outwards. I always play from the outside inwards. Im pretty good at chess, maybe 2300 rating on Yahoo, but I have to play 1 minute blitz to have a chance against the better players. There are many 2300 rated players who I cannot beat with a full clock, but whom I can beat long term with only 1 minute on the clock. The reason is because the time factor allows me to employ a different style. I can attack attack attack, sacrifice pieces and make combonation moves in my head. I will have a series of moves played out in my head in advance and can judge my opponents moves in advance. These moves will not always lead to mate, but will force my opponent to use up his 1 minute of time before me.

This is how I feel I have to play against GoG heads up.

There are some players that I can play inside->out against and beat easily, but GoG isn't one of them. But I feel that I can develop the proper LAG strategy to beat someone like GoG long-term, and destroy the rest of them.

This post doesn't have much meaning. I mainly wanted to make it because I thought the Chess analogy was really cool.
My second analogy choice was a basketball team that has to play a full court game and not a half court game.

For those getting read to say that I should just use game selection and avoid GoG, I agree. But if I can get good enough to beat GoG, then I'll be able to crush the rest of them. Playing against the better players will make you a better player, etc.

I use GoG as the main example because he is the only player on UB Ive encountered who I feel is better then me.

10-29-2005 11:30 AM

Re: Not being able to play a complete game...
 
I think you have a thing for him [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

It's OK, don't be shy.

10-29-2005 11:55 AM

Re: Not being able to play a complete game...
 
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I use GoG as the main example because he is the only player on UB Ive encountered who I feel is better then me.

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So you're better than Mahat?

You think you and GoG are two of the best in the world?

Not contesting, just clarifying...

TheWorstPlayer 10-29-2005 11:57 AM

Re: Not being able to play a complete game...
 
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You think you and G0G are two of the best in the world?

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I'm guessing he hasn't played with everyone in the world on UB.

Niwa 10-29-2005 12:03 PM

Re: Not being able to play a complete game...
 
lmao.

Yeti 10-29-2005 12:52 PM

Re: Not being able to play a complete game...
 
He has only played a few weeks, and mostly against nits. The good players have been absent for some reason.

There are probably a couple of others playing recently who he is breakeven against, but like all of us, kkf likes to think he is much better than his opponents even when that may not be the case.

Obviously there is a difference between knowing every play 2-3 handed, and 4-6 handed. If you play enough you will build up a playbook of hands. I have probably seen every possible situation 4-6 handed. Of course you must mix it up and deviate from these from these, but you are unlikely to run into any situation where you are totally befuddled.

Playing high and very short against very good players is obviously going to be daunting. Give it some more time and I'm sure you'll be totally comfortable.

10-29-2005 01:12 PM

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I'm guessing he hasn't played with everyone in the world on UB.

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Agreed. But I have seen many of the top regulars on this board recognize SR/Mahat as one of, if not the best online player in the world.

And since KKF is playing regularly on UB, as does SR, I thought it was a reasonable question.

10-29-2005 04:23 PM

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But I have seen many of the top regulars on this board recognize SR/Mahat as one of, if not the best online player in the world.

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Who said that?

10-29-2005 04:37 PM

Re: Not being able to play a complete game...
 
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Who said that?

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Many of them on multiple occasions. Do a search...

Dr. Strangelove 10-29-2005 05:48 PM

Re: Not being able to play a complete game...
 
Fyi, I believe magicpitch (David Benyamine) has moved on from the 25-50/50-100 on ub to the 4k-8k mixed game at the bellagio.


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