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sofere 12-26-2005 02:19 AM

$55 hand from the blinds
 
PartyPoker, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t2195)
MP2 (t1180)
MP1 (t1760)
UTG+1 (t1080)
UTG (t700)
Hero (t945)
SB (t945)
Button (t1195)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls t30, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, MP1 calls t30, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, Button calls t30, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, Hero checks

Flop: (t135) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, Button checks

Turn: (t135) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t90</font>, <font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, MP1 calls t90, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>

River: (t315) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t125</font>, <font color="red">MP1 raises t350</font>, hero?

ZBTHorton 12-26-2005 02:23 AM

Re: $55 hand from the blinds
 
I probably hate myself for calling and not pushing.

You see JQ alot here.

12-26-2005 02:24 AM

Re: $55 hand from the blinds
 
Is there any specific reason you bet 90 on the turn?

I can't imagine him having you beat more then 20/100 times.(lol i am so bad at the math part of this game)
I think this is pretty much an auto-push.

sofere 12-26-2005 03:18 AM

Re: $55 hand from the blinds
 
Good question, just noticed the flush draw on the board. Should have bet 100-125ish. The river definitely scared me, I played the hand exactly like I hit BB special trips and after the cold-call turn and minraise river, I'm smelling monster.

There was no way I could get myself to fold that on the river. Called and he showed 66

[Censored], I just realized this is kindof a bad beat post...sorry guys. Might as well get some value out of it...does anybody bet out the flop here (everybody checks trips...might be good to be different).

kyro 12-26-2005 03:35 AM

Re: $55 hand from the blinds
 
I almost always bet this flop. Especially with all those players in. Someone's bound to call you. And I'm most likely going broke here if he pushes me.

sofere 12-26-2005 03:43 AM

Re: $55 hand from the blinds
 
The interesting thing is I think that if I bet the flop, I'm going broke here as its more likely someone will play back at me. But the fact that I checked it, I felt like I was playing the hand more obviously like trips and mostly better hands would play back at me.

Likewise if he had bet the flop, I would raised and built the pot up, then probably would've comitted myself.

I think his checking with a flopped full house was pretty bad because it gave me every opportunity NOT to give him chips with the second best hand.

12-26-2005 04:12 AM

Re: $55 hand from the blinds
 
I'd be losing all my chips here.

sofere 12-26-2005 04:38 AM

Re: $55 hand from the blinds
 
I'm very surprised that everyone is saying they are going to the felt with this hand on the river given my line. I push this river about 0% of the time. IMO You have soooo much to lose and very very little to gain by pushing the river.

I don't think even two pair will call this enough to make a river push profitable.

curtains 12-26-2005 04:42 AM

Re: $55 hand from the blinds
 
river is tough...I would lean towards calling, but folding is okay too, I have a hard time folding in these spots on the river, but it might be the correct play. I just have so many memories of making such calls and having my opponents turn over garbage, especially at the lower buyins. Reraising is completely ridiculous.

45suited 12-26-2005 04:45 AM

Re: $55 hand from the blinds
 
FWIW, I push this river 0% of the time. The chips gained by pushing (and having him call with a worse hand) are not as important as busting out when you are beaten.

Call his raise, if you lose the hand, you still have 475 chips (16 BBs at this point) and are still in position to ITM.


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