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pokerjoker 12-07-2005 05:35 AM

200NL...I keep swearing I\'ll stop this...2 barrel bluff (or 3)
 
Semi Hypothetical hand.

Villian seemed pretty tight pf. I put him on pocket pair TT (maybe JJ or below. AA is possible too but less likely, especially when he didnt push river. Most people wont play JJ-KK like this.

exactly which street do u give up?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

CO ($180.55)
Button ($265.15)
SB ($291.25)
BB ($165.10)
UTG ($517.55)
Hero ($171)
MP1 ($252.70)
MP2 ($27.60)
MP3 ($165.35)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $9</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls $9, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, UTG calls $7.

Flop: ($30) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, MP2 folds, UTG calls $20.

Turn: ($70) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $50</font>, UTG calls $50.

River: ($170) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero is allin.

scdavis0 12-07-2005 05:40 AM

Re: 200NL...I keep swearing I\'ll stop this...2 barrel bluff (or 3)
 
I think this is fine.

soah 12-07-2005 05:42 AM

Re: 200NL...I keep swearing I\'ll stop this...2 barrel bluff (or 3)
 
I wrote a longer response but it's easier to just say that bluffing should only be done if you have a read that tells you there's a reasonable chance for success. No read = no bluff

scdavis0 12-07-2005 05:43 AM

Re: 200NL...I keep swearing I\'ll stop this...2 barrel bluff (or 3)
 
I mean the turn is iffy when a lot of players won't fold and you got 6 outs. When you catch one of the best cards you possibly can on the river, no way can you wimp out.

emil3000 12-07-2005 08:06 AM

Re: 200NL...I keep swearing I\'ll stop this...2 barrel bluff (or 3)
 
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I mean the turn is iffy when a lot of players won't fold and you got 6 outs. When you catch one of the best cards you possibly can on the river, no way can you wimp out.

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I agree. I'd give up on the turn with no read, but certainly the river is a clear bluff.

FlyingStart 12-07-2005 08:47 AM

Re: 200NL...I keep swearing I\'ll stop this...2 barrel bluff (or 3)
 
What is hero represeting with that last bullett? AA? Or is villain supposed to buy that our line is consistent with AK? If we had QQ we would check behind here.

Also the last bullet will only be 1/2 the pot... I wouldn't have the balls, but I'm not a big bluffer

emil3000 12-07-2005 09:01 AM

Re: 200NL...I keep swearing I\'ll stop this...2 barrel bluff (or 3)
 
The line is consistent with AK since it in fact is AQ.

Big_Jim 12-07-2005 09:38 PM

Re: 200NL...I keep swearing I\'ll stop this...2 barrel bluff (or 3)
 
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What is hero represeting with that last bullett?

[/ QUOTE ]
Hero is representing: 9x, AA, KK, AK, x[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]x[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 22, 66, 99

I think this line is quite possible with all of these holdings, except maybe 99.

xorbie 12-07-2005 09:46 PM

Re: 200NL...I keep swearing I\'ll stop this...2 barrel bluff (or 3)
 
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If we had QQ we would check behind here.

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I would certainly not check behind with QQ after playing flop and turn like this.

tdomeski 12-07-2005 11:58 PM

Re: 200NL...I keep swearing I\'ll stop this...2 barrel bluff (or 3)
 
if he folded you were ahead or he is an idiot...

if you know he's an idiot then good play...

if not, bad bluff...

the answer is in your read...nothing we can say can help you.

holla.


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