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Anyone else ever just feel like a nasty nasty degenerate while in a casino? I'm currently staying at Turning Stone, and it's kinda sick watching people play slots, roulette, and other ridiculous games. Can't help but wonder if they're betting their life savings. I have no sympathy, but does anyone else feel weird being around all the different people? I'll see people mindlessly scratching themselves while pulling slots for hours.... Maybe it's just cause I find it so stupid.

Once I'm in the pokerroom I feel fine and at home, but the table games/slots seem to really bother me...meh. Probably a good thing so I won't dare gambool it up too much.

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Doesn't bother me. Get someone rich to stake you for $100/hand BJ so they can get their comps and you'll get over it quick.

It's actually kind of fun if it's not your money.

Edit: Holy crap, I'm Carpal Tunnel now. Have been for 50 posts, actually.

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I get sick, but not for the reasons you listed.

BTW, nice little revelation Metetron.

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These people enjoy what they're doing (a vast majority of them) Why pity them?

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These people enjoy what they're doing (a vast majority of them) Why pity them?

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I guess that's a good point. Most of them are there to have fun, and are responsible...

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I guess that's a good point. Most of them are there to have fun, and are NOT responsible...

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FYP.

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Hmmmm Only when I am sober do I find casions disgusting.

saw some asian kid sticking chiips in his mouth one night

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I've dealt virtually every game out there. You get used to seeing all of the stuff that most people would never see. You get the see the best and worst of people in a casino. Everyone knows they are supposed to lose in a casino, yet think the games are rigged or cheating them, yet they still play. WTF morons, how do you think they pay the bills...by handing out money? LOL

No, I dont feel sorry for them. They make a conscious decision to battle a -EV situation. As long as they are attempting to have fun and enjoy themselves, then it's cool.

I hate to say it..."but when the fun stops"...stop gambling.

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Know lots of people who gamble, for the most part at -EV games.

Maybe it's just luck, but none of them would be considered problem gamblers who are endangering their financial situation.

They play with money they can afford to spend, and play for the entertainment factor. None of them are highrollers--they will take $50 or $100 max for an afternoon at the tribal casinos 90 minutes down the road or up to KC or StL on an overniter. Play some slots and VP, make a few bets at the OTB at the Oklahoma casinos.

Some are actually a little ahead.....they've hit a few nice jackpots and have the sense to not give it all back the same trip.

And when you think about it....spending $50 at a casino is less expensive than a golf outing.....so to each his/her own.

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You sound a bit high and mighty. You do realize that playing poker is also a form of gambling, don't you?

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You sound a bit high and mighty. You do realize that playing poker is also a form of gambling, don't you?

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I understand it sounds arrogant to "look down at the degenerates" but I just find it really awkward. Poker is +EV.

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To most people in the cardroom poker is not +EV. (I'm not saying anything about you personally). Most of the people playing at your table would be just as well off throwing their money at a game with a low house advantage like BJ or craps. I'm just wondering why you feel "at home" in the poker room when you're still surrounded by gamblers who are throwing their money away just like the slot players are, if only just a little more slowly.

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I understand it sounds arrogant to "look down at the degenerates" but I just find it really awkward. Poker is +EV.

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Not for everyone.

Besides, Blackjack and Video Poker both can be +EV at the right times, and Craps is -EV but the house edge is quite low for the fun you get to have.

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OP:

This happens to me often, usually around 10 am, when I'm stumbling out to my car to go sleep at that rest stop on th'ACXpressway. Everything looks surreal, like a bad fever dream, and I start to wish for the destruction of the whole fat drug-addled corrupt western world. The freaks and thieves and sad old dumpy grandmas and fat guys without shoes picking at their toes and balding squirrelly ex-executives and blotto guidos are all that’s left of Saturday night’s glamour, and I just want to get the hell out of this hell. I think, “What a colossal waste of time and space and flesh—Something For Nothing, the American Alchemical Dream and I’m no different, I could be doing something productive or creative and instead I’m half-drunk and all tired and as useless as these grotesque, addicted barbarians and losers huddled around their dwindling cups and stacks while the casino rakes their lives into that pit at the center of the whole business…”

Unless I booked a big win obviously. Then it's like fricking Cat Stevens is sitting on my forehead..."Mooorning has brooooken...like the first Mooor-oor-ning...! Blue bird had spooooken...like the First Bird!!!!!!OI!1" YEEEHAW! Aiyahh! Gambooool!

Vegas in 1 ½ Weeks!!! I can’t wait.

--GA

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The smoke does it for me. I hate smelling like stale cigarettes, and a good percentage of gamblers are chain smokers. When I walk out of the casino and I can smell the smoke in my clothes, in my hair, and in my pores, I feel really gross and dirty.

Of course, the putrid smell of stale cigarettes is easier to take when I've posted a big win. Then it's the smell of...victory. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

We don't have a card room at my local casino, but they've recently made 1/2 of the casino non-smoking, which almost makes me want to go there to play some -EV games. Almost.

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The smoke does it for me. I hate smelling like stale cigarettes, and a good percentage of gamblers are chain smokers. When I walk out of the casino and I can smell the smoke in my clothes, in my hair, and in my pores, I feel really gross and dirty.

Of course, the putrid smell of stale cigarettes is easier to take when I've posted a big win. Then it's the smell of...victory. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

We don't have a card room at my local casino, but they've recently made 1/2 of the casino non-smoking, which almost makes me want to go there to play some -EV games. Almost.

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Lucky for us here in ABQ, they've turned Sandia Casino's cardroom into 100% non-smoking. Yessssssssssssssssss.

But when I'm in the main casino area or in Vegas, where the alcohol and cig smoke flows freely....yes, I usually shower when I get back to my room or my house. I can only take so much.

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At least the old ladies playing slots know they stand no chance. The poker room is full of ugly degenerates who actually think they deserve to win and flick cards and throw their hands at the muck and treat the dealer like trash and are generally ugly and annoying to be around.

Give me the slot players anyday.

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At least the old ladies playing slots know they stand no chance. The poker room is full of ugly degenerates who actually think they deserve to win and flick cards and throw their hands at the muck and treat the dealer like trash and are generally ugly and annoying to be around.


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On the bright side; it doesmake it enjoyable to win their money.

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i only used to get this feeling at the Taj in AC, now that i live in vegas i have no problems.

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Your time at the tables in Commerce has given you brown (*hit) colored glasses with which to view your world, Shant. However, please keep in mind that we NEED those "ugly degenerates" as our future bankrolls.

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Anyone else ever just feel like a nasty nasty degenerate while in a casino? I'm currently staying at Turning Stone, and it's kinda sick watching people play slots, roulette, and other ridiculous games. Can't help but wonder if they're betting their life savings. I have no sympathy, but does anyone else feel weird being around all the different people? I'll see people mindlessly scratching themselves while pulling slots for hours.... Maybe it's just cause I find it so stupid.

Once I'm in the pokerroom I feel fine and at home, but the table games/slots seem to really bother me...meh. Probably a good thing so I won't dare gambool it up too much.

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I used to once think like you do. But I've "evolved."

I suggest you take up playing craps as therapy for your condition. Hell, I used to always want to be PLUS EV too, but as a condition of my being initiated from the "2+2 club" BACK into the human race, I have decided to occasionally do things that I know are NEGATIVE EV. This allows me to keep in touch with my humanity, and the fact that not everything in life is purely and solely based on whether it's +EV or not. You'll have more fun, I assure you, and possibly live longer, if you follow my lead here. All the participants of last november's craps fest will agree.

al

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I don't have any moral issues but after handling some chips and cards and looking around the table at the other people that are handling them too you can bet I wash my hands before I go to the bathroom as well as after.

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Playing -EV games is fine with me if you're responsible and having a good time. Maybe it's the grotesque appearance of 75% of the people gambling. The smoke is very bothersome.

I really don't goto casinos too often, so it's something I can live with...just disturbs me to a certain extent.

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I can be the camera man, we just need a Shana Hiatt.

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Every time i am at the Taj.

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Years ago, on a trip to Vegas, I woke up really early and went to play some VP at a bar. I was kind of confused because I fell asleep early and it was actually around 4 am. But, with the time change, it felt like morning to me.

I had this skinny old drunk black man in a quasi-leisure suit try to sell me his watch because this machine was about ready to pay off. I told him "no" about a half dozen times before I grew agitated. I was about ready to ask if he would smoke my pole for that 20 bucks just to see the depths of his desperation he was, but I really did not want to know the answer. Pretty freakin' sad.

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Ait's kinda sick watching people play slots, roulette, and other ridiculous games.

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ridiculous? "I'm sure casinos would go broke if they only offerred -EV games [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]"

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Yes, I know exactly what you're saying. Given the choice of supporting California-style cardrooms or giant casino extravaganzas, i much prefer the former. But there aren't cardrooms in New England, so I try to rationalize supporting a business that I really don't care much for.

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You sound a bit high and mighty. You do realize that playing poker is also a form of gambling, don't you?

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I've noticed a trend on here that anyone who attempts to in any way question the ethics of what we do for fun and profit is immediately accused of self-righteous judgmentalism. I don't think the shoe fits in this case.

While most people in a casino are not gambling addicts, there is something troubling about so many people spending their retirement pumping quarters in the slots. (At least poker, even badly played, is a bit more intellectual though not much at its nadir.) Being troubled by it doesn't make me holier-than-thou.

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Your time at the tables in Commerce has given you brown (*hit) colored glasses with which to view your world, Shant. However, please keep in mind that we NEED those "ugly degenerates" as our future bankrolls.

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More power to anyone who can play as a pro at Commerce day in and out. I only have sh*t colored glasses when I think about that place.

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I have that same feeling in a public library, airport, or Chinese restaurant. Handling the chips is really gross. I keep hand sanitizer with me at the table and use it frequently. I make very frequent trips to the restrooms to scrub my hands. And I am not a germ freak or anything.

So if you see a 30-something guy playing 8/16 at the Wynn in February with a travel sized Purell as a card cover... that would be me.

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LOL!, I could tell you some stories that would turn your stomach from the days when I worked at the Sahara. LOL!

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None of that stuff works. Geez, the same person that scrubs ths toilets stuffs the paper towels in the dispenser.

If you look and watch close, you'll see there's a direct line of travel from the 80 million Vegas visitors "hineys" right to your prime rib dinner LOL!.

That's before we even begin to discuss "Waste Expo" and the waste disposal in general.

Trust me, you really don't want to think about it, or before long you'll realize just about everything is a cesspool to some degree.

Geez, the water at the Bellagio is recycled. Think about that the next time you're in that little cloud of humidity in front of the casino, LOL!

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THe only time I feel gross is when I drink 14 free coronoas at the craps table over 10 hours.

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The only time I get a gross feeling is when im at the President in St. Louis.

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THe only time I feel gross is when I drink 14 free coronoas at the craps table over 10 hours.

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What! That's not even 1.5 drinks an hour, and beers nonetheless.

4 Long Islands per hour for six hours with random beers thrown in while shooting dice is where it's at.

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This happens to me often, usually around 10 am, when I'm stumbling out to my car to go sleep at that rest stop on th'ACXpressway. Everything looks surreal, like a bad fever dream, and I start to wish for the destruction of the whole fat drug-addled corrupt western world. The freaks and thieves and sad old dumpy grandmas and fat guys without shoes picking at their toes and balding squirrelly ex-executives and blotto guidos are all that’s left of Saturday night’s glamour, and I just want to get the hell out of this hell. I think, “What a colossal waste of time and space and flesh—Something For Nothing, the American Alchemical Dream and I’m no different, I could be doing something productive or creative and instead I’m half-drunk and all tired and as useless as these grotesque, addicted barbarians and losers huddled around their dwindling cups and stacks while the casino rakes their lives into that pit at the center of the whole business…”

Unless I booked a big win obviously. Then it's like fricking Cat Stevens is sitting on my forehead..."Mooorning has brooooken...like the first Mooor-oor-ning...! Blue bird had spooooken...like the First Bird!!!!!!OI!1" YEEEHAW! Aiyahh! Gambooool!

Vegas in 1 ½ Weeks!!! I can’t wait.

--GA

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This is some pretty good writing.

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saw some asian kid sticking chiips in his mouth one night

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Unless your talking about Doritos here, I think I'll just throw up in my mouth right about now!

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The only time I get a gross feeling is when im at the President in St. Louis.

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The only thing that bothered me when I was there is that I was not carring my Glock.

Had ubber lag to my left I raise to isolate. 3-4 times Beat him every time and he says" Oh I see how U play do that I am going to kick UR ass"

So me being the nice Guy I am do it yet again. He busted for the 4th time in an hour and I ask him. So whats going to happen 1st U going to kick my ass or rebuy again.