hand against stoxtrader
 

stoxtrader is a very good player for those that don't know. anyways:

5-5 NL, 4 handed or so. I (750) open for 15 with hooks on the button SB folds and stox (600) makes it 45 straight in the BB, I call. flop is A 9 rag. stox deliberates for a long time and bets 60 into a $95 pot. my only read is he is very uncertain. your move?

--turnipmonster

Re: hand against stoxtrader
 

Fold, there's too much risk that he is trying to give you a reverse tell for a move to be good.

Re: hand against stoxtrader
 

I would call, just as you would do with AQ. He is almost certainly on QQ or KK here, and will probably check the turn. When he checks it you pot it.

If he bets the turn, I would probably raise a really small bet and fold otherwise. If you're certain in your read, though, I might raise it on the turn whether he bets small or not.

Re: hand against stoxtrader
 

Very nice meeting you guys last night turnip. It might be expensive to move him off of KK/QQ here, but I think it can be done. As you can see from last night, I generally don't tangle with those who post on the forum unless I can help it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: hand against stoxtrader
 

assume my read is correct, although he could be uncertain for a number of reasons.

Re: hand against stoxtrader
 

i think stox is unlikely to do anything on the turn but bet 1/2-3/4 pot here if you call. moving him off of qq or kk (his most likely holdings) will be expensive and unsuccessful a large proportion of the time. I muck here and move on.

Re: hand against stoxtrader
 

I assume this is live?

Unless you've seen stoxtrader play this situation before, I'd muck it. His tell is probably genuine, but maybe not for the reasons you think. He could simply be deliberating whether or not to check AA, AK or AQ.

Garland

Re: hand against stoxtrader
 

stox is aggressive and usually plays limit - he doesn't check the flop and see the turn very often.

Re: hand against stoxtrader
 

gimme a break, moving him off KK or QQ should be easy, he's a good player. Once you call on the flop he will probably be done with it.

Re: hand against stoxtrader
 

I could certainly have chose a better game. I was kind of learning on the fly - My NL experience is limited to a few tournaments, which I know play much differently than a cash game.

you guys are giving me too much credit.