Bubble hand with flush draw
 

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (4 handed) converter

Hero (t1085)
BB (t2430)
UTG (t3630)
Button (t855)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t100, Button calls t100, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t400) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>


I know that it is normally not a good idea to go broke on flush draw, but this situation seems like a good place to gamble. If big stacks have a K, they will most likely call. Shorty probably would also call with a K if one of the big stacks didn't also call. The pot is already 40% of my remaining stack. Is this a good time to push? Or should I have pushed it preflop and hoped to take it down at that point?

Re: Bubble hand with flush draw
 

C/R all in

Re: Bubble hand with flush draw
 

Now, this spot is quite interesting. Button's shorter than you are, both of you have got little stack. You've got very little FE after someone bets. It's very likely someone has a K out there, but you do have outs against them.

If you bet: Any K calls you, and that happens a lot of the time, meh.

If you check: I like this a bit better because I would love for it to be checked through, or for the lovely minbet to come out there so you can shove back with FE.

Now, if a signifigant bet comes out there, I think I could lay this one down. Because I really hate to coinflip it up on the bubble, and this is one of those spots where you are.

Re: Bubble hand with flush draw
 

What about preflop? Should I just lay it down and hope the other short stack gets busted?

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (4 handed) converter

Hero (t1085)
BB (t2430)
UTG (t3630)
Button (t855)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t100, Button calls t100, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t400) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>


I know that it is normally not a good idea to complete from the SB on the bubble, but this situation seems like a good place to gamble. If big stacks have a K, they will most likely call. Shorty probably would also call with a K if one of the big stacks didn't also call. The pot is already 40% of my remaining stack. Gee, I should have pushed it preflop and hoped to take it down at that point.

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FYP. There are times I might muck from the SB as well, but the last thing I want to do is see the flop 4 handed. Depending on the play of the two big stacks, there are times that I might complete from the SB hoping that the BB will push with a hand weaker than mine and the two others will fold, but those are unique situations.

Push or fold PF.

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I like pushing preflop. Button doesn't have a good hand or he would have pushed himself. UTG is just being a jerk. I'd push and expect to take it down the vast majority of the time.

Re: Bubble hand with flush draw
 

I don't think it's assured that the two limpers will fold if you push. I get called all the time by limpers when I push on the bubble, but I guess I only play at the $11's so that's not really reliable. I don't mind limping with A8s from SB with two limpers ahead of you and a stack of more than 10xBB.