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dark_horse 04-08-2005 12:15 AM

3bet this river?
 
i certainly don't want it to get capped.
(good turn bet?)

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

River: (5.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB

KaiShin 04-08-2005 12:19 AM

Re: 3bet this river?
 
Yeah, I wouldn't 3-bet this.

thesharpie 04-08-2005 12:20 AM

Re: 3bet this river?
 
Hell yes 3 bet it!

KaiShin 04-08-2005 12:22 AM

Re: 3bet this river?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Hell yes 3 bet it!

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And if its capped?

What do you think CO is raising with here, that he would coldcall with no other limpers or CCers PF?

thesharpie 04-08-2005 12:32 AM

Re: 3bet this river?
 
He would probably 3 bet AKs PF, maybe he'd call A9s if he thinks Hero's on a steal.

There's no read, but I'm assuming he's a dummy as any hand that beats Hero's should 3 bet preflop rather than cold call.

Therefore it could be some weird slow played 2nd best hand.

KaiShin 04-08-2005 12:44 AM

Re: 3bet this river?
 
OK my question is probably misleading because I think CO is incorrect to CC PF with what looks to be Ax [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

I'd rather call his raise and snap off a bluff than 3-bet and call a cap if he has the goods. If he did bluff-raise this river, I can make a note for next time.

dark_horse 04-08-2005 12:51 AM

Results:
 
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

River: (5.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Jd Qd (flush, queen high).
CO has 8d 9s (straight, ten high).
Outcome: Hero wins 9.75 BB. </font>

numeri 04-08-2005 01:08 AM

Re: 3bet this river?
 
[Replying before reading other posts - grunching]

First - why don't you want it capped? A flush HU looks pretty good to me. I may be too aggressive, but I 3-bet the river every time.

As for the turn, I think the bet is fine given that you picked up the OESD and you have some fold equity HU.

Now I'll go read how wrong I am. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Entity 04-08-2005 02:42 AM

Re: 3bet this river?
 
[ QUOTE ]
3bet this river?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yup. Call a cap. Straights and two pair will raise the river; so will lower flushes and higher flushes. You're ahead &gt; 66% when called here.

Rev. Good Will 04-08-2005 03:04 AM

Re: 3bet this river?
 
nice hand.

Ax diamonds and Kx diamonds are the only realistic hands that CO could've had to beat you... Calling two cold, I'd don't think that he'd have Kx diamonds (if not, add him to buddy list). So he could realistically hold 1 hand that could beat you. Thats a river raise [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]


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