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theblitz 12-15-2005 01:11 AM

Playing KQ pre-flop
 
One of my major problems seems to be how to play KQ pre-flop.
Limping with them is easy when in EP and I will generally limp in LP if I am not first in.

What happens if I am first in? Raise? Limp?

What about if there is a raise before me?

Ideas would be much appreciated.

DJ Sensei 12-15-2005 01:47 AM

Re: Playing KQ pre-flop
 
I play full ring, so if you're a shorthander, hopefully somebody else can tell you whats up.

I fold UTG, UTG+1 (occasionally will limp early if suited).
Limp UTG+2, MP1, MP2.
raise MP3, CO, button.

If raised ahead of you, use discretion when calling, as you could be dominated (especially when raise was in EP).

One thing about KQ is that it seems to be harder to play postflop than AK/AQ/AJ. If you brick the flop, you're still losing to A high, so be more judicious with your continuation bets.

leehrat 12-15-2005 01:56 AM

Re: Playing KQ pre-flop
 
sh raise 4xbb+1 for each limper from all positions, utg included

theblitz 12-15-2005 02:18 PM

Re: Playing KQ pre-flop
 
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sh raise 4xbb+1 for each limper from all positions, utg included

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Sounds a bit over the top.

I've seen a number of threads stating that even with AQo it could be correct to limp UTG.

Isura 12-15-2005 02:20 PM

Re: Playing KQ pre-flop
 
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sh raise 4xbb+1 for each limper from all positions, utg included

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Sounds a bit over the top.

I've seen a number of threads stating that even with AQo it could be correct to limp UTG.

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He is referring to shorted-handed (sh).

tripp0807 12-15-2005 02:28 PM

Re: Playing KQ pre-flop
 
KQ sucks, and sucks a lot if it's unsuited. It's one of those hands that only wins small pots and gets killed in dominated spots because people look at it as, "ooh, broadway connectors."

It's only worth playing in MP and for a raise.

beavens 12-15-2005 02:29 PM

Re: Playing KQ pre-flop
 
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KQ sucks, and sucks a lot if it's unsuited. It's one of those hands that only wins small pots and gets killed in dominated spots because people look at it as, "ooh, broadway connectors."

It's only worth playing in MP and for a raise.

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i wouldnt go as far to say that.. KQo is actually one of my big nonpaired winners.. it's all about how you play it postflop.

wdeadwyler 12-15-2005 02:44 PM

Re: Playing KQ pre-flop
 
I play KQo like this

UTG: Limp
any position folded to me besides SB, BB, and UTG: Raise
Multiple limpers to me in LP: Limp
In blinds against a raise: Call or fold depending on tightness of raiser (I lean towards folding)

KQs is an auto raise from any position regardless of limpers except for the blinds

I play 6-Max.

FYI AQo is an easy UTG raise.

fathertime 12-15-2005 03:02 PM

Re: Playing KQ pre-flop
 
6 max raise it utg to button (kq beats 80% of hands). I raise utg and utg1 5x blind; otherwise 3 or 4x + 1; if called by a tighty behind you, be careful. There is no reason to limp with this hand in lp if others have limped--folks limp anything and odds are you have the best hand preflop, start charging.

limp in blinds; call or raise a habitual button raiser

only call raises with it when person raising raises a decent % of hands, in which case you may want to reraise in pos.

fold to reraise, except in exceptional situations

wdeadwyler 12-15-2005 03:03 PM

Re: Playing KQ pre-flop
 
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6 max raise it utg

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I disagree, I want to play this hand in position, not OOP. If OOP, Im looking to play a small pot. I limp UTG


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