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Fianchetto 11-23-2005 12:50 PM

80/160 hand against J.A. Sucker
 
Bay 101

I've been in the game about an hour or two and I talked to Sucker briefly before he got in the game so he knows who I am, and I know him, etc... He also knows that I haven't played a whole lot of the 80 game, I've usually been playing the 40.

Sucker sits down and posts behind the button, it's folded to him and he raises, Button and SB fold, I call in the BB with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] . We're heads up.

Flop: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I check, he bets, I raise, he 3-bets, I call.

Turn: T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I check, he checks

River: A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I bet, he calls.

Comments on all streets appreciated.

Results and thoughts later.

daryn 11-23-2005 12:52 PM

Re: 80/160 hand against J.A. Sucker
 
not to be rude (we all have to try and be on best behavior lately) but this looks like a yawner

partygirluk 11-23-2005 12:53 PM

Re: 80/160 hand against J.A. Sucker
 
I'd 3 bet preflop, as he is likely raising with (almost) any two there, AQo is a monster. I realise you were likely "slowplaying" preflop, but I don't like it (you should be 3 betting a tonne of hands there).

shemp 11-23-2005 01:03 PM

Re: 80/160 hand against J.A. Sucker
 
Check the river. You want to give him a chance to bluff or bet an A.

11-23-2005 01:05 PM

Re: 80/160 hand against J.A. Sucker
 
I'd re-raise PF. You're ahead of most hands he makes this move with IMO. As played, I dont like the flop c'r. Looks to much like you're just on a steal kind of thing like "i know you dont have anything yet" and he's like "i know you dont have any of that either, we're going to the turn" type move. I would have just called the flop and probably either led the turn or c'r the turn. I like the river bet, and his call to me looks like an A little hand.



Tex

Fianchetto 11-23-2005 01:09 PM

Re: 80/160 hand against J.A. Sucker
 
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not to be rude (we all have to try and be on best behavior lately) but this looks like a yawner

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Is my play standard then? I feel like I botched one street.

MNpoker 11-23-2005 01:13 PM

Re: 80/160 hand against J.A. Sucker
 
In the new style FCR {}

Preflop FCR{0, 50%, 50%}
Flop B, C/C, C/R {33%, 33%, 33%}

I think I'm in the lead on all of these but this is a good spot to mix things up. Because I can now play SO many hands this way. The percentages will change but my C/R no longer clarifies my hand, nor does any other action.

If I check raised the flop I'm betting now. 90%
If I check called the flop I'm B, C/R {50% , 50%} This is highly based on the villian.
If I bet out on the flop I'm betting now. 90%

River: C/R, B {25%, 75%}

MNpoker 11-23-2005 01:15 PM

Re: 80/160 hand against J.A. Sucker
 
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not to be rude (we all have to try and be on best behavior lately) but this looks like a yawner

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Is my play standard then? I feel like I botched one street.

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HU vs a potential blind steal is never standard IMO.
This is a situation where a player can gain (or lose) a lot of checks in the long run. (By properly stealing or protecting)

What was your thought process on the turn?
- Were you hoping he would bet and you could get a bluff to put more checks in?
- Were you looking to check raise?
- Did you think he had you beat and were laying this down at some point?
- Other?

That might help to explain if your play was correct. In our opinions - which also may or may not be correct [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

1800GAMBLER 11-23-2005 01:21 PM

Re: 80/160 hand against J.A. Sucker
 
River c/r time.

DcifrThs 11-23-2005 01:27 PM

Re: 80/160 hand against J.A. Sucker
 
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As played, I dont like the flop c'r. Looks to much like you're just on a steal kind of thing like "i know you dont have anything yet" and he's like "i know you dont have any of that either, we're going to the turn"

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who's nothing do you think is better?

and who's nothing doesn't really mind putting in 3 bets on the flop?

Barron


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