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push. there is almost no conceivable way that button comes along with SB already all-in.

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call and help take out shorty

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I hope you're kidding. Is button folding AT-AK, 88+? I doubt it, and I'm fairly certain there are many more hands that he will call with.

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it was a quick response, but i really wasn't kidding, and still think i might make that play.

think if you're button: you raise to 2x BB, SB calls all-in, and then BB pushes (who covers you). i'd need to be real sure i was going to win because otherwise it looks like i'm coming in second place based upon BB's big-stack push.

i'd be interested in what range of hands you'd have to put button on to not make that push.

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This guy's range is much larger than AT-AK, 88+ for a button minraise. I think a lot of players would fold TT and AQ here as well, especially at the $215s.

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I think a lot of players would fold TT and AQ here as well, especially at the $215s.

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No chance. If button's any good, he knows curtains has an expanded range here. Plus, he can get 2nd if curtains beats them both this hand. A good button is calling with pairs as low as 77 or so here.

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ITM Button will certainly call a lot more than on the bubble. If you push, button will still be likely to come in second if he calls as he probably has a decent hand and SB is a random hand. Button did raise into you, not just shorty, and could have a strong hand.

I'd call. Button will ALMOST never bet without a strong hand after the flop, making play very easy for you.

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Button will ALMOST never bet without a strong hand after the flop, making play very easy for you.

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That's a good point. And remember, as nice as it'd be if you did push and win the hand, button eliminating the SB here is a much better result for you than if you push and SB happens to win the pot. Call and see the flop.

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Minraiser has to lose to both short stack and curtains to get 3rd here.

He's not folding AQ or TT here.

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Yeah good points I certainly wouldn't be folding TT/AQ here, I think I was out of my mind thinking that now.