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durrrr 12-05-2005 02:22 AM

50/100 vs mahatma
 
BB is fanta, and the flop bet has its reasons. As for history vs prah:

1) i've stacked him i believe twice in 25/50 when i flopped sets and played them slow (somewhat). Also he made a sick thin value bet vs me (1 card J hi flush vs my T hi flush) for a 20k pot ~10min before this (it was hu... fanta sat out for 2secs).


Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $100 BB (6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB ($9791)
BB ($14245)
Hero ($22666)
MP ($10050)
CO ($42615)
Button ($35180)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $350</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $1200</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $1100, Hero calls $850.

Flop: ($3650) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1600</font>, CO calls $1600, BB folds.

Turn: ($6850) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">
Hero (19k he covr) ?</font>

Allinlife 12-05-2005 02:50 AM

Re: 50/100 vs mahatma
 
converter messed up.. I presume you pushed?

I don't particularly like it...simply because I don't think he'd call you with a worse hand.

durrrr 12-05-2005 02:57 AM

Re: 50/100 vs mahatma
 
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converter messed up.. I presume you pushed?

I don't particularly like it...simply because I don't think he'd call you with a worse hand.

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converter isnt messed up... im asking for my action...

also; i'm an idiot and hadnt remembered the previous hand well (got 2 outted by AZK in 20k pot @ the same time as the previous hand... wat a donk [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]). Exclude the "sick thin valu bet" from previous history tht was just bad memory... was a fairly standard hand.

Allinlife 12-05-2005 03:11 AM

Re: 50/100 vs mahatma
 
I think betting is out of question...I hate to say this but I think you gotta check and play poker.

lapoker17 12-05-2005 03:19 AM

Re: 50/100 vs mahatma
 
I would normally think check/call on turn is best, but I'm a little worried about what he called you with after a PF reraise on a dry flop, and now your flop bet size looks kind of crappy, because it doesn't tell us a lot about where he stands.

does he RR preflop with 88?

did you think about a huge 3-bet PF? did you think about dumping AKo OOP against him pf or would that just get you run over in this game?

I guess you do whatever you can to control pot size, though that may be futile.

Can you possibly check/fold this turn?

Tough spot.

KaneKungFu123 12-05-2005 03:30 AM

Re: 50/100 vs mahatma
 
why lead the flop?

durrrr 12-05-2005 03:31 AM

Re: 50/100 vs mahatma
 
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why lead the flop?

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pm if u want teh answer. Had my reasons as i said.

creedofhubris 12-05-2005 04:01 AM

Re: 50/100 vs mahatma
 
Are there any reasons for NOT checking the turn?

durrrr 12-05-2005 09:28 AM

Re: 50/100 vs mahatma
 
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Are there any reasons for NOT checking the turn?

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It is very likely that i have the best hand.

Rococo 12-05-2005 01:34 PM

Re: 50/100 vs mahatma
 
This decision depends so much on flow and game play that I suspect you had a better sense of what to do in the moment that anyone can give you on this board now. That being said, I'll give it a whirl.

For a certain type of player, your smallish flop bet means one of two things -- either you flopped a set (probably kings) and are hoping that a weak lead will draw a reraise, or you have TT-QQ and hope that he completely whiffed. I don't have any idea whether Mahatma views you as this type of player, but maybe so given your description of the hands where you flopped a set.

Either way, if you lead the turn, I feel that he is going to give you credit for a hand. Put another way, I don't see him raising you on the turn (which is the real fear here) unless he beats a hand like AK.

If you check the turn, I think that he is going to check behind a lot of the time. Still, you are going to be in a difficult spot on the river because guys like Mahatma eat blocking bets for the lunch.

All things considered, if you think that he will read you as I described above, I vote for 3/4 pot bet on the turn. I would have hate to give him a free one if he has something like 67 here.


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