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Victor 09-26-2005 04:20 PM

a hand i misclicked and may like
 
36/18/2 raises in co. i call in bb with q10h.

flop is q66. i check and call.

turn is 5 and goes check, check.

river is 4 and i misclick check.....

Derek in NYC 09-26-2005 04:24 PM

Re: a hand i misclicked and may like
 
You have to either bet or checkraise this flop, and bet the turn.

gaming_mouse 09-26-2005 04:25 PM

Re: a hand i misclicked and may like
 
i think i'd c/r the flop and lead the turn

Victor 09-26-2005 04:26 PM

Re: a hand i misclicked and may like
 
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You have to either bet or checkraise this flop, and bet the turn.

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ummm....sorry, i must ask why?

meow_meow 09-26-2005 04:26 PM

Re: a hand i misclicked and may like
 
I would have probably check raised the flop.
That said, I'm really starting to like the river check against a fairly aggro villain. Maybe I should add that to my game.

Victor 09-26-2005 04:27 PM

Re: a hand i misclicked and may like
 
whywhywhywhy

ZZZ 09-26-2005 04:29 PM

Re: a hand i misclicked and may like
 
Obviously there are other ways to get to the river, but given that you just ambled there, the misclick check is -EV. By betting, he has a tough choice with all his Ace high hands that will happily check behind. This is especially true if the flop was two tone.

If he bets, easy raise and watch him call out of utter confusion. But I don't think many hands bet here.

ZZZ

aflaba 09-26-2005 04:31 PM

Re: a hand i misclicked and may like
 
I don't like it.

You miss a probable call from Aces.

Let's say aces comprise 1/3 of CO open raising hands.

If we assume
1) He will call with A-high (resonable)
2) He won't bet A-high if you check (resonable for most opponents)
3) He won't call with hands that are not A-high (not far from resonable)

then he needs to bluff bet 50% of the time he doesn't have A-high for your play to be good.

Since I think the four assumptions have been more biased towards checking than is correct, I think the real percentage he needs to bluff is more like 60%+

Victor 09-26-2005 04:34 PM

Re: a hand i misclicked and may like
 
dont you think his likelihood of having an ace is reduced by the turn check on a super raggedy board.

Derek in NYC 09-26-2005 04:34 PM

Re: a hand i misclicked and may like
 
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You have to either bet or checkraise this flop, and bet the turn.

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ummm....sorry, i must ask why?

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There are too many overcards that can hurt your hand.

Also, you are most likely ahead and missing bets from hands like AK, 88, etc. that will call you all the way to the river.


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