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ansky451 06-27-2004 12:35 AM

Can I Fold Aces Here?
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed)

saw flop|<font color="C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG+1 ($$51.80)
MP1 ($$38.60)
MP2 ($$39.35)
<font color="C00000">MP3 ($$105.55)</font>
CO ($$30)
Button ($$39.85)
<font color="C00000">Hero ($$49.10)</font>
BB ($$334.10)
UTG ($$47)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $1, MP3 calls $1, CO folds, Button calls $1, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, BB calls $2, MP2 calls $2, MP3 calls $2, Button folds.

Flop: ($13) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, BB folds, MP2 folds, <font color="CC3333">MP3 raises to $102.55</font>, Hero calls $36.10 (All-In).

Turn: ($161.65) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($161.65) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $161.65
<font color="green">Main Pot: $105.20, between MP3 and Hero.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by MP3 ($105.20).</font>
<font color="green">Pot 2: $56.45, returned to MP3.</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows Ah Ac (two pair, aces and tens).
MP3 shows Td Ad (three of a kind, tens).
Outcome: MP3 wins $161.65. </font>


My biggest mistake was probably the weak bet preflop no?

sdplayerb 06-27-2004 12:39 AM

Re: Can I Fold Aces Here?
 
well you were around a 50/50 when the money got in, and with the dead money in there, i would take that all day.

you make it seem like you made some terrible call against a set.

yes, you should have raised more preflop.
also, was the BB $1 or $.50? That is confusing in your post.

ansky451 06-27-2004 12:41 AM

Re: Can I Fold Aces Here?
 
Yes well i thought i was up against a set, and i changed the bb to the correct amount of 1

AlekzanderZ 06-27-2004 01:20 AM

Re: Can I Fold Aces Here?
 
Exactly, your mistake is the pre flop bet. In a cashgame, you have to raise between 6 and 8 time de BB so 6$ or 8$.

[img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] AlekzanderZ ShanZ

luckycharms 06-27-2004 01:30 AM

Re: Can I Fold Aces Here?
 
Biggest mistake: not playing at PartyPoker

SmileyEH 06-27-2004 03:12 AM

Re: Can I Fold Aces Here?
 
[ QUOTE ]
well you were around a 50/50 when the money got in, and with the dead money in there, i would take that all day.

you make it seem like you made some terrible call against a set.

yes, you should have raised more preflop.
also, was the BB $1 or $.50? That is confusing in your post.

[/ QUOTE ]

How is he 50-50 at this point? The villian is drawing to a ten or runners - clearly this is something more like 5-1 or better.

-SmileyEH

riverboatking 06-27-2004 03:13 AM

Re: smiley
 
check the flop again

Manimal 06-27-2004 04:05 AM

Re: Can I Fold Aces Here?
 
The villain had 11 outs - diamonds and tens.

06-27-2004 08:43 AM

Re: Can I Fold Aces Here?
 
AA v ATs with the flop 56% AA 43% ATs 1% Tie

Twodimes.com

LargeCents 06-27-2004 10:22 AM

Re: Can I Fold Aces Here?
 
Hi Ansky,

I agree, a bigger raise preflop was necessary, especially out of position. Heck, out of position, I might make it 8 or 10, then all-in on the flop. I just hate messing around out of position like that. But, you were leading when the money went in, so you were still a winner on the hand, in the theoretical sense.

--Cents


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