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swolfe 07-15-2005 11:30 AM

98s in CO
 
$1/$2 PL

Opponent stacks are ~$200, I have them covered. Two loose limpers to me, I pot raise to $11 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. My image is TAG...16/5/5. SB folds, BB calls, 1 limper in MP calls, 1 folds.

Flop, 3-handed ~$36 - 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

BB checks, MP checks, I check

I continuation bet about 90% of the time, but my hand is pretty marginal, I decided to take a free card and see if I hit my gutshot or improve in some way. I figure this could also look like a missed AK/AQ and give me bluff equity if an A/K/Q should fall.

Turn ~$36 - J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

BB bets $5, MP calls, I call

I now have a flush draw. I consider raising, but decide to take the nice odds that are offered.

River ~$50 - A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

BB checks, MP checks, I bet $35

I missed, but neither have shown strength...here's my bluff card.

Neither Villain has come to my attention as being too much of a donk.

Ghazban 07-15-2005 11:36 AM

Re: 98s in CO
 
Looks great to me. That's the best river card you could hit that doesn't actually improve your hand to better than no pair.

Is this on Party? This and your other post are full of people making uberdonk underbets-- is that common? The full ring NL doesn't have many of these types.

amoeba 07-15-2005 11:37 AM

Re: 98s in CO
 
I like it.

played perfectly.

AllIn3High 07-15-2005 11:38 AM

Re: 98s in CO
 
Well played. Did you have any questions? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

swolfe 07-15-2005 11:40 AM

Re: 98s in CO
 
[ QUOTE ]
Looks great to me. That's the best river card you could hit that doesn't actually improve your hand to better than no pair.

Is this on Party? This and your other post are full of people making uberdonk underbets-- is that common? The full ring NL doesn't have many of these types.

[/ QUOTE ]

this is the first time in a while that i've played the 1/2 (empire balance $10K->$2K since July 1). 2/4 and 3/6 has this occassionally. i only saw a few uberdonks do this in the 5/10 and 10/20. it definitely becomes more rare as you move up.

the night 07-15-2005 11:41 AM

Re: 98s in CO
 
Well played. Typically when someone underbets the pot I think they are either begging for a raise, or the bet should be played as a check because they're just making a "feeler" bet. His check on the river showed it to be the latter.

swolfe 07-15-2005 11:53 AM

Re: 98s in CO
 
[ QUOTE ]
Well played. Did you have any questions? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

uhhh, i guess not [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

amoeba 07-15-2005 11:54 AM

Re: 98s in CO
 
on these rivers I'm always afraid I'm going to get called by somebody with A7 or somthing like that but I make it 35 anyways.

punter11235 07-15-2005 12:01 PM

Re: 98s in CO
 
Well played.
My general reflection is that ppl in 1/2NL are too much of donks to raise with suited connectors against them. You can take their stack with or without preflop raise and the more opponents see the flop the better (because a chance that there will be sb willing to pay you off increases).

Best wishes !

MikeL05 07-15-2005 12:16 PM

Re: 98s in CO
 
I think I would have raised the turn. Even with the caller there, it is actually quite rare for those small bet/calls to be willing to call the raise as well. I can't tell you how many pots I take down by raising these awful minibets. It's like people remember this one time they took down a $35 or even $135 pot with a $5 bet... and they're willing to try it all the time now. The best part is, after you raise in this situation and take it down on the turn, the moron will do it again... because he forgets that hand, and still remembers the time that some fool folded to his ridiculously small bet. Rinse and repeat.


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