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MegaBet 09-25-2005 07:54 PM

$109 - Call my push with 3s?
 
NL Texas Hold'em $100 Buy-in + $9 Entry Fee Trny:16064546 Level:9 Blinds(250/500) - Monday, September 26, 03:07:53 EDT 2005
Table Table 44803 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: bronc64 ( $2560 )
Seat 4: HERO ( $2305 )
Seat 5: BayWarrior ( $2195 )
Seat 10: SickValueBet ( $2940 )
Trny:16064546 Level:9
Blinds(250/500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ As Js ]
bronc64 folds.
HERO is all-In [2305]
BayWarrior folds.
SickValueBet calls [1805].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9d, 3d, 4h ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qh ]
** Dealing River ** [ Jd ]
SickValueBet shows [ 3h, 3c ] three of a kind, threes.
HERO shows [ As, Js ] a pair of jacks.
SickValueBet wins 4860 chips from the main pot with three of a kind, threes.
HERO finished in fourth place.

We are in push/fold mode with the stacks pretty even on the bubble. I have pushed 4 times without being called, and showing AK, AQ, pocket 7s and pocket 10s to gain respect. I like my push, but do you call with 3s in this situation?

adanthar 09-25-2005 08:04 PM

Re: $109 - Call my push with 3s?
 
Yes, and it's not really all that close.

ps: he'll be along to post soon

MegaBet 09-25-2005 08:10 PM

Re: $109 - Call my push with 3s?
 
Oh yeah? Who is he?

If this is correct to call then this may be a leak in my game. I just wanted to check with you guys. I personally don't like it because of the even chip stacks. Why is this not even close, considering my perceived tight pushing standards?

EDIT: I'd appreciate it if my screen name isn't posted [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Johan 09-25-2005 08:17 PM

Re: $109 - Call my push with 3s?
 
Ehm I dunno, just started playing the SNG's but isn't this call clearly -EV for him? Why try to double up at the ((problaby)50% (!) ) Chance of busting out here?

Johan

MegaBet 09-25-2005 08:20 PM

Re: $109 - Call my push with 3s?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Ehm I dunno, just started playing the SNG's but isn't this call clearly -EV for him? Why try to double up at the ((problaby)50% (!) ) Chance of busting out here?

Johan

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, exactly my thoughts. But if someone can convince me otherwise, I'm open to it.

Mr_J 09-25-2005 08:20 PM

Re: $109 - Call my push with 3s?
 
"Why try to double up at the ((problaby)50% (!) ) Chance of busting out here?"

Because it's 1800 to call with 3000 in the pot. If he folds he's got 3.5bb.

MegaBet 09-25-2005 08:27 PM

Re: $109 - Call my push with 3s?
 
[ QUOTE ]
"Why try to double up at the ((problaby)50% (!) ) Chance of busting out here?"

Because it's 1800 to call with 3000 in the pot. If he folds he's got 3.5bb.

[/ QUOTE ]

He's not desperate for chips. In fact, he's the chip leader...just.

Oluwafemi 09-25-2005 08:28 PM

Re: $109 - Call my push with 3s?
 
[ QUOTE ]
"Why try to double up at the ((problaby)50% (!) ) Chance of busting out here?"

Because it's 1800 to call with 3000 in the pot. If he folds he's got 3.5bb.

[/ QUOTE ]

is that the only reason why it's not even close?

Johan 09-25-2005 08:31 PM

Re: $109 - Call my push with 3s?
 
@Mr_J

Seems to me that there will be better opportunities coming then calling a push on the bubble, even with this low stack (that all players at the table have).

If his stack was even lower (way lower then now), the call might be justified...

(again, not sure, just trying to throw some common sense in)

Johan

curtains 09-25-2005 08:56 PM

Re: $109 - Call my push with 3s?
 
Don't believe the hype, this is probably a fold against most opponents. This is what SNGPT is for, people should use it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]


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