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dknightx 10-19-2005 11:47 AM

Packers/Vikings
 
Any reason NOT to bet on the Packers? -2 (-101) at pinnacle right now

Easy E 10-19-2005 12:03 PM

Re: Packers/Vikings
 
I'd look at it carefully- NFC North games have a way of confounding the obvious "fade the pathetic home team" picks

McGahee 10-19-2005 12:06 PM

Re: Packers/Vikings
 
Other than their OL sucking, their inability to run the ball, a lousy defense, bad coach, a brutal history in domes even when they were good...I see no reason not to lay points with the Packers on the road.
And yes, I realize the irony that it's hard to tell which team I'm describing, but still...why is GB favored on the road? Give me the Vikes.

Webster 10-19-2005 12:50 PM

Re: Packers/Vikings
 
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a brutal history in domes

[/ QUOTE ] you do know that that is an urban legend right?

Green is not certain and the OL actually is getting better.

The defense is not as bad as you might think.

Why is GB favored? They are playign the Vikings for God sake and Tice is bad mouthing the Packers saying the only lucky thing about this year is they get to play the Packers.

The Pack have lost 4 games by a total of 20 points with 14 of those against the Lions. Minnesota?

minus 2??? Bridgejumper has that as a "C" game for Minnesota. yuck! I can't see Minny winning.

McGahee 10-19-2005 01:09 PM

Re: Packers/Vikings
 
Their defense stinks, their coach stinks, and the dome thing is not an urban legend. They stink in domes.

10-19-2005 02:45 PM

Re: Packers/Vikings
 
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Their defense stinks, their coach stinks, and the dome thing is not an urban legend. They stink in domes.

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I've been a Minnesota fan for a long time and I think Minnesota is the pick here. Minnesota usually plays extremely well after the week they lose a road game by 14+ points. Also Green Bay has been a weak road team the last couple years while Minnesota has been a strong home team the last couple of years. Also GB O-Line is one of their major weaknessed while the D-Line is one of the only parts of the Minnesota team that actaully plays well ( I know they are clost to last in rushing yards allowed but I think this is the fault of unathletic slow LB's) so I think Minnesota will be able to get some consitent pressure on Favre causing him to make some mistakes.

If a Minnesota RB is able to rush for 90+ yards and Minnesota can avoid having a -2 TO differential I like the Vikings to pull this out by 3.

Edit: I don't think I would feel safe laying points @ Minnesota with many teams in the League let alone the Packers. They are 1-1 on @ Home this year with there only loss to a TB team that turned out to be pretty good and they blew out a New Orleans that is on/off again. So I think this line is to much of a reflection of Minnesota horrible play on the road (which they have done for the last 5 years) that is causing them to be a home dog.

2nd Edit: On a side note, I am a big realist when it comes to sports not a Homer, and I have placed bets against Minnesota this year when I though they would lose (@ ATL, @CIN, @CHI) so I am not being biased based on the fact that I like the Vikings.

jedinite 10-19-2005 02:59 PM

Invoking the obvious
 
Invoking the obvious Tice rule here. Stay away from both sides.

10-19-2005 03:00 PM

Re: Packers/Vikings
 
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Minnesota usually plays extremely well after the week they lose a road game by 14+ points.

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That may be true, but it's logic for conventional circumstances, and Minnesota finds itself in highly unconventional circumstances. Not to mention they lost to Atlanta, in Atlanta by 20 in Week 4, and then - surprise! - not much of a recovery in Chicago.

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D-Line is one of the only parts of the Minnesota team that actaully plays well ( I know they are clost to last in rushing yards allowed but I think this is the fault of unathletic slow LB's)

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Maybe, but whatever it is, the Minnesota defense has been pretty horrible. And that's the one part of the team that was supposed to improve this year. Whether it's their linebackers or not, the D is weak, whatever you think of the D-line in general.

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I think Minnesota will be able to get some consitent pressure on Favre causing him to make some mistakes.


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Maybe, but Favre showed poise against Carolina, which one would expect, because it's Favre. And my goodness, if a little bit of pressure rattles Favre, what's going to happen to Culpepper?

I'm not saying jump all over the Pack here, I'm just laying off. Until something drastic happens - suspensions to some of the players, Tice getting fired - there's just too much crap going on with this team to try to figure out what they're going to do on any given Sunday.

10-19-2005 03:03 PM

Re: Packers/Vikings
 
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Minnesota usually plays extremely well after the week they lose a road game by 14+ points.

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That may be true, but it's logic for conventional circumstances, and Minnesota finds itself in highly unconventional circumstances. Not to mention they lost to Atlanta, in Atlanta by 20 in Week 4, and then - surprise! - not much of a recovery in Chicago.


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I'm sorry I should have said they play well at home after losing on the road by 14+ points. My mistake.

10-19-2005 03:04 PM

Re: Packers/Vikings
 
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there's just too much crap going on with this team to try to figure out what they're going to do on any given Sunday.

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This is one of the most accurate statements so far in this thread.


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