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balkii 11-07-2005 10:53 PM

is there where i lose a lot of $$?
 
3 handed vs unknown

BTN raise, I 3-bet A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in the BB, BTN call.

flop 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
bet, call

turn T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

bet,call

river Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

check, bet, I fold

any thoughts?

jph0424 11-07-2005 10:56 PM

Re: is there where i lose a lot of $$?
 
I don't really like the 3 bet preflop, you are out of position with a marginal hand. Given the way you played it the rest is fine by me.

SomethingClever 11-07-2005 11:37 PM

Re: is there where i lose a lot of $$?
 
1) This is kind of nitty, but I don't resteal with the worst aces. Only A4 or A5 and up.

2) Nah, you're just hosed when he calls the turn.

Lurker4 11-07-2005 11:43 PM

Re: is there where i lose a lot of $$?
 
I also call PF unless villain has a really wide stealing range, and even then c/r any flop may be a better play. I probably check/fold river, but 3-handed I'm not sure if this is best since the turn adds multiple draws to the board.

oreogod 11-08-2005 12:10 AM

Re: is there where i lose a lot of $$?
 
the PF 3bet is fine, it's unfortunante hes an unknown, but most of the time in a 3handed game its solid, CCing sucks big time...so re-raise or fold.

Now on the turn, I can go either way, u are getting overs to fold maybe 30-40 percent of the time on a T-high board and may even get popped by good players (kind of a transparent move, as he can be doing this with overs or draw...but most of the time u dont have a solid hand).

Either way, turn is the only thing that can go either or once u decide to play.

ALL1N 11-08-2005 12:49 AM

Re: is there where i lose a lot of $$?
 
I think you really need to question what benefits there are to 3-betting A2 here preflop in relation to how it'll affect the rest of the hand. If you think it makes it easier, please tell me why.

balkii 11-08-2005 12:57 AM

Re: is there where i lose a lot of $$?
 
I 3-bet here because 1) i figured to have the best hand , and 2) i'd like to force my opponent be making the decisions.

When I just call in the BB here what are my options? checkraise any flop? check-call down to the river and hope i am still good? donkbet any flop?

If you have some better ideas for me, please share. thats why I posted the hand, because i think the way i played it sucks.

livinitup0 11-08-2005 01:01 AM

Re: is there where i lose a lot of $$?
 
I cant see the benefit of 3betting this preflop.

jt1 11-08-2005 01:43 AM

Re: is there where i lose a lot of $$?
 
well played, imo. i think he caught on the flop and you had just enuf outs to call a turn bet so you bet. You now strongly suspect that he's seeing the SD and there aren't enuf hands that he could have that you beat so you fold the river.

This is 3 handed. Fwiw, 3 betting pf and leading flop will induce more laydowns the pf call/cr flop.

oreogod 11-08-2005 01:44 AM

Re: is there where i lose a lot of $$?
 
Oh [censored]...I thought u were in the SB...preflop 3bet in the bb is bad. I was mixed up (hence the part about CCing being lame in my intial post.).


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