JTo in the CO.
 

The villain here was very loose PF and pretty aggressive, post flop they were decently aggressive (1.6 for the # people).

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Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB folds, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB

- Jim

Re: JTo in the CO.
 

I think you are beat here more often than not, but there is a chance that he was jamming with the As, so I think a river call is good.

SGS

Re: JTo in the CO.
 

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I think you are beat here more often than not, but there is a chance that he was jamming with the As, so I think a river call is good.


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Re: JTo in the CO.
 

I think you're good here.... I don't think he's pushing his flush that hard that early

Re: JTo in the CO.
 

some serious spewage here. Do you always play top pair (mediocre kicker) in this manner? Yes, there is remote possibility that your hand is good on this flop. By remote, I mean that you should fold here. You want to pay 3 or 4 bets to continue in a pot that was unraised preflop with this board? That is, in the unlikely scenario where your 10 kicker is good (ugh)you could still be in trouble here. TURN: now you are dead. If villain was pushing the case A he just hit it. He is still betting into you why are you calling? What hands could villain play in this manner that you can beat? RIVER: given your play throughout the hand i would call here.

I think you need to assess what your expectation in defending against possible semi-bluffs in small unraised pots. Further, when a card hits that obviously helps this person that you think was semi-bluffing you need to release.

Re: JTo in the CO.
 

Yeah, I hope I'm not a total pussy here but I think folding the flop is the best play. If you're behind, you can't be sure if your T is the highest spade out there, and that spells doom for reverse implied odds.

Re: JTo in the CO.
 

I think that you should fold this turn. You just are not beating much and your flush draw isn't good enough for a call.

Given that you called the turn, call the river.

Re: JTo in the CO.
 

Perfect contact. The A hit his range hard. If he wasn't jamming with the flush it was with the A or K of flush and we're now even further behind his range. The A is a devastating card. Given that you called the turn the river is a must call. I almost want to raise but not quite. if they were slightly more agg I think you can raise since you're now representing a big enough hand so that you can safely fold to a 3bet. He'll likely just call you with almost every flush.

Re: JTo in the CO.
 

I also think that this hand was major spewage.

Funny thing about this hand (it's moot whether I won it or not): I didn't feel like I was spewing at all during it. I thought I felt normal and had an even-keeled mind while playing it.

Looking back at it, the villain had bothered me earlier in another hand with a suckout. And on top of that, this had been a bad morning at the tables (bad past three days have all been losers actually). I didn't want to fold but I knew calling was bad, so I 3-bet.

Immediately after this hand I felt something was wrong, but I couldn't put a finger on it. So I sat out of all my tables when the blinds came around and posted this. Then I went and watched a movie.

I came back and read through the action and I see a player in the CO who is acting like the lagtards who make the games so good even though 4-6 seats are tough.

So I'm working on getting back to my Tommy zone again.

- Jim

Re: JTo in the CO.
 

I don't think folding the flop is an option. We're against two aggressive players and we have top pair and a flush draw. We have way too much to just be folding.