I don\'t respond to donk bets well
 

live rebuy tourney at garden city today. I got moved to this table about 10 min ago and have stole the blinds once, folded the rest, including open folding on the button and SB respectively (had a decent read on the fellow to my left from playing w/ him previously, he snaps a chip on his cards when he plans on playing them after looking at them and holds them in his hands when he doesn't. Both times he had snapped the chip on top and i had garbage, so i figured i would wait).

I have 3600, blinds are 100-200.
Folded to me in the CO and I raise to 600. Folded to BB.

BB had been pretty active and I could tell was very inexperienced. Well, just enough experience to get him in trouble. He had a decent sized stack that he got off one of the good players by calling a pretty big all in overbet w/ A9s saying "it's my favorite hand" and hitting a one card st8 on the river.

So, he calls fairly quickly. Didn't look like he considered raising or folding.

Flop is A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

he bets out 500 into 1300 pot and I have exactly 3k left.

wtfdid?

Re: I don\'t respond to donk bets well
 

am i just missing your hand, or was it intentionally left out?

Re: I don\'t respond to donk bets well
 

More like wtfdoyouhave?

Re: I don\'t respond to donk bets well
 

Holy christ you're aggro, raising without cards and all.

Edit: wow, I'm slow.

Re: I don\'t respond to donk bets well
 

is this a "guess my hand" post?

and why is a 1/3 pot bet a donk bet?

given his play with the A9, you're obviously not pushing him off any kind of hand so what you actually have is pretty important here. weak players are the ones you rely on to pay you off when you have them beat ... trying to get fancy if you don't have a hand doesn't usually work since they are hard to bluff (just ask Annie Duke).

Re: I don\'t respond to donk bets well
 

you should. its the way i learned.

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Damn, sorry. I have black JT.

Re: I don\'t respond to donk bets well
 

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and why is a 1/3 pot bet a donk bet?

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i raised preflop and now he's leading into me = donkbet

(it's a term, not a description per se)

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you should. its the way i learned.

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i should what? learn to deal w/ these bets? it's really my stack size that creates my issue.

Folding feels so damn weak, but I tried to find a line and couldn't.

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i don't like it. there are A LOT of hands that a loose player could have easily called (but not raised) in the BB that have you beat here (Ax, KJ, QJ). Even if you aren't beat already, what do you do if a diamond hits the turn? remember, you aren't pushing him off a marginal hand and he's already told you he has something. is middle pair/weak kicker the hand you want to go to war with?

i fold and wait for him to pay me off when i have a real hand.