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RikaKazak 11-18-2005 08:01 PM

folding KK pf in 6 max for 100 bb?
 
Well,
What do you guys think of this hand. Villian is a 40/7.3 with an AF of 1.4 after 684 hands. My mouse was over "fold" but then the words of my coached popped in my head, "for 100 BB in 6 max it is not a leak if you lose your stack to KK vs. AA ANYTIME unles vs. SUPER ROCK" what do you guys think? This is more of a general question and not a hand question. Thanks in advance, here's the hand that sparked this in my mind.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG ($862.90)
MP ($394)
Button ($400.84)
Hero ($357)
BB ($531.40)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $19</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $53</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $175</font>, Hero calls $302 (All-In), MP calls $182.

Flop: ($718) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: ($718) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($718) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $718

gabbahh 11-18-2005 09:05 PM

Re: folding KK pf in 6 max for 100 bb?
 
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Villian is a 40/7.3

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Without knowing anything more I'd do the same.

RikaKazak 11-18-2005 09:17 PM

Re: folding KK pf in 6 max for 100 bb?
 
what stats do you fold to the 3 bet? something like 20/5???

SunOfBeach 11-18-2005 10:13 PM

Re: folding KK pf in 6 max for 100 bb?
 
against 40/7.3 at 2-4 for $357, id beat him into the pot.

he's probably AA-QQ,AK here... and you have to get in against that. youre 18% against 6 combinations of AA, but youre 82% against 6 combos of QQ, and 70% or so against 12 combos of AK. as long as he could be on QQ or AK (and 40/7.3 implies that), and its only for $357 total, i dont see how you can hold.

etizzle 11-18-2005 10:24 PM

Re: folding KK pf in 6 max for 100 bb?
 
you mean the 4 bet. That is very important.

RikaKazak 11-18-2005 11:12 PM

Re: folding KK pf in 6 max for 100 bb?
 
if we had DEEP stacks, I would just call the 3 bet and proceed, (assuming I had odds for set) but I like with 100BB's it's push or fold, I think push was correct, I did run into AA.

JoeC 11-19-2005 04:12 AM

Re: folding KK pf in 6 max for 100 bb?
 
It is certainly possible. I have never done it but in my 2/4 career I can think of 2 instances where I was very close to doing it, and the guy had AA both times. Neither of the times involved more than 110 BBs or so.

Against a 40/7.3 I think you have to die with the KK though.


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