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blaze666 09-18-2005 11:54 AM

when is it EVER -EV to draw?
 
im talking about the 25NL at pacific. i can't name a time when i have ever made less than 7.5XBB when calling preflop for set value. why? because because i would estimate that, excluding my own raises, about 30% of the pots are raised preflop, and even then you still get 40-60% of players seeing the flop, because it's usually a min-raise. and the implied odds are excellent! value betting, i can usually build up the pot very high.

this also goes for flush draws, and straight draws. i have stopped bothering to calucualate pot odds anymore, because i know i have excellent odds on my draw! damn, i love pacific.

twolf 09-18-2005 12:17 PM

Re: when is it EVER -EV to draw?
 
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when is it EVER -EV to draw?


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When it appears that you do not have the best draw otherwise known as you make your draw and still lose. A shame I never played NL at Pacific I was there last year when I played 2/4-15/30 but left(cashed my BR for bills) before they got NL. One tabling is boring though and the software and customer service sucks. I will never go back there for any reason, ever.

JihadOnTheRiver 09-18-2005 01:29 PM

Re: when is it EVER -EV to draw?
 
Donkey's always draw.



Sorry, somebody had to do it.

GrunchCan 09-18-2005 03:08 PM

Re: when is it EVER -EV to draw?
 
You need to make better that 7.5 BB on a set in order for playing sets to be +EV. That's becasue a set will only win about 75% of the time. Therefore you need 10 BBs.

blaze666 09-18-2005 04:04 PM

Re: when is it EVER -EV to draw?
 
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You need to make better that 7.5 BB on a set in order for playing sets to be +EV. That's becasue a set will only win about 75% of the time. Therefore you need 10 BBs.

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not to mention the fact that if i have a set, and someone else has a better set or more, then it's probably going to become an all-in.


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