30 60 BB TP
 

30 60 party 10 handed, no real reads, as this is my 2nd orbit.

UTG + 1 limps, SB completes, I cehck the BB with J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Flop: J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

SB bets, I raise, limper calls, SB calls.

Turn: A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

SB checks, I bet, both call.

River: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

My Action?

Re: 30 60 BB TP
 

my feeling is that If UTG+1 has K10 or Q10, he is calling me on the river if i bet. However, he isn't going to bet if checked to. The way the hand played out, it looks like SB actually has something and UTG+1 is probably on a draw, so my gut was telling me to value bet to get a call from SB, but I just couldn't pull the trigger.

Also, SB could definitely be calling me down with another Jack that probably has a better kicker than a 6.

I think the line is to just check call, but I wasn't sure.

Results to follow

Re: 30 60 BB TP
 

very hard to put limper on a hand, you'd think if he had a draw he'd 3bet the flop to get a free card, and if he had an ace u think he'd raise the turn to force out sb, very confusing

Re: 30 60 BB TP
 

bet that [censored]!!!

There is a lot of crap that calls you. Namely any T holding onto the vain hope that you are making one final bluff with your missed flush. Also, PPs do actually flip up here too. Odds of getting raised are slim to none. Also, You outkick J5. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Re: 30 60 BB TP
 

Since no one did anything on the turn you can't give them credit for the A. Barring that what do they have to beat you besides a better J? Go ahead and bet.

Re: 30 60 BB TP
 

OK, I guess I goofed this one. I ended up checking, it got checked down. SB had K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], and limper had Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MHIG.

Obviously neither is calling a river bet (maybe the SB throws out a desperate attempt), so it looks like I made the same regardless, but I think you guys are right and I should've bet this river. I obviously am not putting them on an ace, or i would've seen a turn raise most likely, and I will get a call from either of them holding a 10. My fear was that limper was holding a better jack than me, but i still gotta bet the river knowing that this is a definite possiblity. OH well.