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baronzeus 11-28-2005 11:43 PM

flop/turn questionable...how bad did i mess this up
 
UTG something like 34/17, BB loose passive ish, probably 50/5 or something.

Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (10 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (10.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero folds

krishanleong 11-28-2005 11:47 PM

Re: flop/turn questionable...how bad did i mess this up
 
You really have to raise the flop or turn. I think you can fold to a 3-bet on the turn from either player so get your bets in then. I think the river fold is okay but the previous street should have been played differently.

Krishan

baronzeus 11-28-2005 11:49 PM

Re: flop/turn questionable...how bad did i mess this up
 
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You really have to raise the flop or turn. I think you can fold to a 3-bet on the turn from either player so get your bets in then. I think the river fold is okay but the previous street should have been played differently.

Krishan

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yes i was planning on raising any turn but then i saw all that flop action and decided against it. i think i should ahve raised it anyways and just folded to a 3bet.

flawless_victory 11-29-2005 09:23 AM

Re: flop/turn questionable...how bad did i mess this up
 
baron, youre making me sick.
quit being so fancy and RAISERAISEITTagjergj.
this is an obvious flop raise, and turn "just call" is turbo awful... i understand you are concerned one or both has trhe flush, but this is a big pot... u need to raise or fold.

baronzeus 11-29-2005 10:36 AM

Re: flop/turn questionable...how bad did i mess this up
 
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baron, youre making me sick.
quit being so fancy and RAISERAISEITTagjergj.
this is an obvious flop raise, and turn "just call" is turbo awful... i understand you are concerned one or both has trhe flush, but this is a big pot... u need to raise or fold.

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yeah, jesus, no wonder ive been losing recently. im gonna drop down to .5/1 until i figure out how to play poker again.

NLSoldier 11-29-2005 10:39 AM

Re: flop/turn questionable...how bad did i mess this up
 
i can totally relate to this hand. i find myself doing this bs way too much.

flawless_victory 11-29-2005 10:41 AM

Re: flop/turn questionable...how bad did i mess this up
 
ok, sry.
youre the best.

Spicymoose 11-29-2005 10:51 AM

Re: flop/turn questionable...how bad did i mess this up
 
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I think this officially takes away your LAG status.

That is what you were trying to do... right?

mab_nyc69 11-29-2005 12:11 PM

Re: flop/turn questionable...how bad did i mess this up
 
i agree 100% that you need to raise flop....question for the field??? lets walk through this becuase it happens all the time to me. I raise, someone then 3bets......I will cap. the club falls......check / fold if two players are in? i seem to spew chips here....ill get check / raised or call down two more bets. trying to tighten up post flop. thoughts?

baronzeus 11-29-2005 06:01 PM

Re: flop/turn questionable...how bad did i mess this up
 
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ok, sry.
youre the best.

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uh...no i was agreeing. two 180+ downswings in 4 days.


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