A8s, loose game, flops 2 pair
 

1/2 6max game, many loose players in coldcalling raises preflop.

I get a[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] under the gun and limp with it.

UTG+1 raises, CO coldcalls, BB calls, I call.

Flop A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

BB checks. I Bet, UTG+1 raises, CO calls, BB calls, I 3bet, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, BB calls

(Here i bet the flop hoping for a raise because the board is sort of draw heavy, but then got 2 other callers anyway so I thought I would just raise it for value, was it ok?Or do you prefer check-raising the flop)

Turn 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

BB checks, I bet, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, BB folds

River 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I bet, UTG+1 calls, CO raises, I call, UTG+1 calls.

How did I do?

Re: A8s, loose game, flops 2 pair
 

I would raise pf. I like the rest of it.

Re: A8s, loose game, flops 2 pair
 

There is no open-limping in the six-max game. Raise for value before the flop. If it is a game where many people will call with rags, then it becomes even more critical to do so.

Re: A8s, loose game, flops 2 pair
 

Your flop play is good. When you decide to bet into a preflop raiser to protect your hand, you have to know

1. That there's a good chance he'll raise
2. That when he raises, there's a good chance he's rasing something you beat (or have a reasonable chance to beat).

Both of these are true in this case. nh.

Edit: Except for preflop.

Re: A8s, loose game, flops 2 pair
 

Thank you all,

I am not sure how to play Axs under the gun 6 handed. in case of very loose games is it ever correct to limp with it? For instance A3s.
What would be the cutoff for raising an Axs hand under the gun? any difference if the game is tight or loose?

Re: A8s, loose game, flops 2 pair
 

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Your flop play is good. When you decide to bet into a preflop raiser to protect your hand, you have to know

1. That there's a good chance he'll raise
2. That when he raises, there's a good chance he's rasing something you beat (or have a reasonable chance to beat).

Both of these are true in this case. nh.

Edit: Except for preflop.

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How does Hero know that UTG+1 wil raise. He said He "hoped" that player would raise; not that his notes indicated an aggression level indicative of villain making an auto-raise. On this board I think it is quite possible that UTG+1 will just call as will everyone behind him.

If that were likely to the case, I would just as soon try to pump the pot and take advantage of my immediate pot equity edge. The best way to do that IMO is to check-raise the flop. It is much more likely that UTG+1 will autobet when checked to than that he will auto-raise a donkbet (plus I doubt, even if UTG+1 for some reaosn does not bet, that this flop gets checked through altogether).

Here, Hero got lucky in that UTG+1 cooperated and Hero was able to three-bet (which is awesome BTW).

Re: A8s, loose game, flops 2 pair
 

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What would be the cutoff for raising an Axs hand under the gun? any difference if the game is tight or loose?

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I don't open anything lower than A8s unless I'm in co or btn, although I think there are others here who will go a little lower. I'm just not there yet. If the game is really tight, I think I could loosen up a tad more.

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How does Hero know that UTG+1 wil raise. He said He "hoped" that player would raise; not that his notes indicated an aggression level indicative of villain making an auto-raise. On this board I think it is quite possible that UTG+1 will just call as will everyone behind him.

If that were likely to the case, I would just as soon try to pump the pot and take advantage of my immediate pot equity edge. The best way to do that IMO is to check-raise the flop. It is much more likely that UTG+1 will autobet when checked to than that he will auto-raise a donkbet (plus I doubt, even if UTG+1 for some reaosn does not bet, that this flop gets checked through altogether).

Here, Hero got lucky in that UTG+1 cooperated and Hero was able to three-bet (which is awesome BTW).

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I am not sure. Anyway, we dont have a warranty that he will bet the flop either, but we believe so since he raised preflop.
Hero didnt get so lucky - and lost to TT