Commerce 400 NL: Three-way Deep Stacks
 

Commerce, 5-handed, 400 NL, 5/10 Blinds

Relevant stacks/reads:
SB: $2,200. A bit loose preflop and has made some truly horrid bluffs and misplays postflop. Example: Ten-handed, raised KTo UTG to $30. Tight player in MP2 reraised to $120 ($500 stack), folds to KTo who calls. Flop is KQ7r. KTo pushes. MP2 calls with AA.
BB: ~$700. Tilting a bit. Tight preflop but seems confused postflop. Likes putting in his money with a good but not great draw (e.g. nut flush draw and two overs with one card to come) regardless of other information (pot size, stack sizes, opponents, etc.).

Hero has A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on the Button.

Fold, fold, Hero calls 10, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop (3 players, $25 after disgusting rake): 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

SB bets 20, BB calls 20, Hero raises to 80, SB calls 60, BB calls 60.

Turn (3 players, $265): A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

SB bets 150, BB calls 150, Hero is all-in for 1,065.

Comments on all streets appreciated.

Re: Commerce 400 NL: Three-way Deep Stacks
 

two thumbs up

Re: Commerce 400 NL: Three-way Deep Stacks
 

raise preflop

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raise preflop

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I'm not sure I agree here. If I raise:

a) the hand will be HU. This seems to be ideal.
b) the hand will be 3-way. I now have a larger than average pot with a mediocre-to-crappy holding. But I'm in position and I was the preflop aggressor. This situation is okay.
c) I win the blinds. This sucks. I'd rather play the hand and see if something develops that will allow me to win a hugep pot.
d) I get re-raised. This is fine. I can fold and now I don't have to play a potentially dangerous hand.

If I limp:

a) the hand will likely be 3-way. I can either choose to try to make and win a large pot or release in a small pot. Smells like Teen Spirit.
b) one of the blinds will raise. I have an easy fold.
c) the SB will fold. This is very unlikely.

All things considered, I'm not sure that a raise is better than a call. Is there really that much of a difference here?

Edit: I should also mention that if my raise gets called, I gain very little information about my opponents' hands. Any hand with which they'd call a limp, they'd likely call a small raise.

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Is there really that much of a difference here?

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yes

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c) I win the blinds. This sucks. I'd rather play the hand and see if something develops that will allow me to win a hugep pot

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This doesnt suck whatsoever. I cant even really argue this, as it pretty much gets to the root of who I am as a poker player, but you really need to evaluate your hands worth. If I could take 15$ there everytime then you're maximizing EV in that spot.

Re: Commerce 400 NL: Three-way Deep Stacks
 

BoxTree,

If I’m going to play this hand PF, its for a raise.

What’s 400NL 5/10 blinds?

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yes it's 5/10 blinds unfortunately [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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yes it's 5/10 blinds unfortunately [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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400$ cap?

This reminds me of a terrible Bellagio $2/5 NL capped @ $200.

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I'd rather play the hand and see if something develops that will allow me to win a hugep pot.

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I can either choose to try to make and win a large pot or release in a small pot.

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Reality check. You have A4o.

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I'd rather play the hand and see if something develops that will allow me to win a hugep pot.

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I can either choose to try to make and win a large pot or release in a small pot.

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Reality check. You have A4o.

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i love A4o... ive won lots of big pots w/ her... i raise that sh.t from all positions regularly... A5o too.