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ajmargarine 12-24-2005 04:33 PM

ATs UTG flops top 2
 
No reads.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed)

MP1 ($95.80)
MP2 ($112.90)
MP3 ($116.30)
CO ($51.50)
Button ($99.50)
SB ($99)
BB ($97.30)
Hero ($97.40)
UTG+1 ($191.06)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
Hero calls $1, UTG+1 calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($5) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $10</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $50</font>, Hero calls $71.40 (All-In), SB calls $46.40.

Turn: ($197.80) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($197.80) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $197.80

Isura 12-24-2005 05:58 PM

Re: ATs UTG flops top 2
 
I'm not fond of the flop 3-bet without reads. I won't be surprised to see AA or TT just as often as T8 and A8. I prefer calling and reevaluating the turn. If he's passive, he probably will do a crappy job of getting money into the pot on the turn/river with a better hand. Conversely, if he has a worst hand, he will probably overplay it, as bad players like to do medium strength hands.

stealyourface 12-24-2005 06:00 PM

Re: ATs UTG flops top 2
 
i like it.

your gonna see 108 and A8 here most of the time IMO.

12-24-2005 06:08 PM

Re: ATs UTG flops top 2
 
I think your fine. Worst case senerio is that he has trip, which i doubt b/c he would of prob raised with TT, AA, and if his a fish 88 as well.

12-24-2005 06:09 PM

Re: ATs UTG flops top 2
 
can you post the results or PM to me.

trumpman84 12-25-2005 03:52 AM

Re: ATs UTG flops top 2
 
I'm definetly getting my money in here,..if not on the flop, on a blank turn...sucks if you ran into 88 or TT...I think even the worst of players raise AA in the SB here.

12-25-2005 04:10 AM

Re: ATs UTG flops top 2
 
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I'm not fond of the flop 3-bet without reads. I won't be surprised to see AA or TT just as often as T8 and A8. I prefer calling and reevaluating the turn. If he's passive, he probably will do a crappy job of getting money into the pot on the turn/river with a better hand. Conversely, if he has a worst hand, he will probably overplay it, as bad players like to do medium strength hands.

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who the heck completes w. so many limpers w. AA?

12-25-2005 05:33 AM

Re: ATs UTG flops top 2
 
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I think your fine. Worst case senerio is that he has trip, which i doubt b/c he would of prob raised with TT, AA, and if his a fish 88 as well.

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88 is a standard raise from any position in 6max for me, and I'm no fish [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

12-25-2005 05:36 AM

Re: ATs UTG flops top 2
 
[ QUOTE ]
I'm not fond of the flop 3-bet without reads. I won't be surprised to see AA or TT just as often as T8 and A8. I prefer calling and reevaluating the turn. If he's passive, he probably will do a crappy job of getting money into the pot on the turn/river with a better hand. Conversely, if he has a worst hand, he will probably overplay it, as bad players like to do medium strength hands.

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I would have played it the way AJ did, but I like this line a lot. As a lower poster suggested I don't think AA or TT is likely at all but 88 is.

However, I can't see myself folding no matter what his later action is, so isn't it correct to just put him all-in? At least you will have seen more of his play to get better future reads..

wdeadwyler 12-25-2005 05:57 AM

Re: ATs UTG flops top 2
 
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I think your fine. Worst case senerio is that he has trip, which i doubt b/c he would of prob raised with TT, AA, and if his a fish 88 as well.

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88 is a standard raise from any position in 6max for me, and I'm no fish [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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If everyone limps in and you raise 88 from the SB or BB (as a standard play), you are a fish. An aggro one, but a fish nonetheless. I guess that makes you a donkey?

As for the actual hand, sometimes you go broke with top 2. Most of the time you dont. FYI there is no reason to 3bet on this dry flop. Just call and lead the turn, and get the rest in there.


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