3/6 AK hand
 

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Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, BB calls.

Turn: (4.66 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

River: (7.66 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, BB folds, Hero cries and folds.

Final Pot: 10.66 BB

standard? who bets the turn? who checkcalls river given a turn checkcall?

Re: 3/6 AK hand
 

I don't like betting the turn into a pre-flop cold caller. Here, I think I would, but I would have gotten raised. The river I play the same hoping for AQ after I'm raised.

Re: 3/6 AK hand
 

Checking the turn definitely makes sense, and you're pretty close between calling and folding. I'd lean towards the fold, actually. As for the river, I like it. Check/calling gets you nothing when you're ahead and costs you when you're behind. Bet/folding means you lose or win the same amount whether behind or ahead, which seems fair.

Edit: Totally missed that hero has the A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Whoops. All things considered, I like the line.

Re: 3/6 AK hand
 

I think I would probably bet the turn. Button or BB would check raise with 2 pair on the flop considering the board has a double draw IMO.

betting the turn might get but or BB to fold a hand like KT.

You also have 13 outs to the nuts and possible 3-6 for a pair. Even if you get raised here at least you know you will get called on the river with the nuts if you hit.

Re: 3/6 AK hand
 

I don't know. he might just have KQ or Q9s. I think betting is better. BUT with TT or JJ would reraise SH. So what does he have? AJ maybe he would reraise PF, JTs? Thats 1 hand. I just found betting all the time scares people to fold or wins extra bets. With check with 13-19 outs?

Re: 3/6 AK hand
 

Haven't read any other responses. I lead the turn, otherwise that board is just inviting someone to scare bet you. If you get raised then you can probably lay it down. Some reads on the other players obviously would be helpful.

edit. missed the A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], just means I bet the turn and definately call a raise.

Re: 3/6 AK hand
 

ahh someone agrees with me betting the turn.

Re: 3/6 AK hand
 

I'm with you. Reads would be real helpful in this situation. You know Lag's are going to bet any scare card if you give them a chance. I like to keep the initiative against them if I can.

Re: 3/6 AK hand
 

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ahh someone agrees with me betting the turn.

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I`m with you too. We`d love to fold out AQ which I consider the classic coldcalling hand (although I think this probable does not go with 6-max).

Re: 3/6 AK hand
 

I would have bet the turn (lots of nut outs, some other outs) and seen the showdown on the river by some method (I'm sorry, when the river arrives by a different line than I would have taken I have trouble figuring how to play it, other than top pair seems worth a call at 8.66 to 1 at minimum).

Re: 3/6 AK hand
 

with no reads I bet the turn every time. We def. don't hate it and at 3/6 everyone amd their mother peels the flop.

That being said, if i bet and he raised the turn, I check/call the river.

If he called turn and raised the river, I guess I fold but that depends on how many keyboards I had broke earlier that day.

Re: 3/6 AK hand
 

This turn seems like a pretty easy check with outs situation. For the people that like betting do we really have that much FE with a pre flop cold caller and a board like this?

Re: 3/6 AK hand
 

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This turn seems like a pretty easy check with outs situation. For the people that like betting do we really have that much FE with a pre flop cold caller and a board like this?

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this is what I was wondering. I was seriously 50/50 between checking and betting.

Re: 3/6 AK hand
 

With no reads, you're hoping he isnt a bluffer and hasn't just made you fold to his JT(or very aggressive).

However, Vs a solid tag this line is perfecto.

Why?
AJ will raise we fold the worst hand.
Jacks+other crap won't have raised so we make $ from value bet.
Flushes will raise - We fold losing hand.

Win when ahead, Fold when behind.

JT's will call this normally so they call with losing hand... Ahh its just such a sexy line, it really is [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img].

Only problem here clayton, is you've no read... So you better hope he isn't raising as a bluff or being super aggressive with Jx. I doubt he is... So its perfecto.

Nice hand.

Edit: Oh the turn check is an easy check IMO, Hardly any FE vs two guys on this board and paying two to see the river with our draw really does blow.

Re: 3/6 AK hand
 

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This turn seems like a pretty easy check with outs situation. For the people that like betting do we really have that much FE with a pre flop cold caller and a board like this?

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this is what I was wondering. I was seriously 50/50 between checking and betting.

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I think our fold equity is pretty poor against 2 players on a drawy board. I like the check.

I'd pay off the river raise though; AQ and "I don't believe you have an ace so I'm going to raise my jack" are both possible after you check the turn IMO.

Re: 3/6 AK hand
 

Flop: bet/call, continuation bet with two overs with a gutshot and a bdfd

Turn: bet/call, just picked up the nut flush draw

River: check/call, don't let AJ/AT/KQ get two bets from you, but you'll probably win a bet from AQ/KJ and you might induce a bluff from a worse hand

Re: 3/6 AK hand
 

Hey where are the reads, buddy christ? I think I bet call this turn because we know nothing about button- which means he might have cc w/ low PP, A2s, etc. We also have the nutflush draw, gutshot and 2 overs- more than enough to make sure one bet goes on, call a raise, and try to steal the pot without hitting. On the river getting 11:1 I'd call and see what our boy is playing- then on your next hand you can say something like 'called pf w/ 44 and slowplayed flop'. Plus I honestly think we're good 1 in 12 vs an unknown.

Re: 3/6 AK hand
 

I'd call the river for the reason Redd mentioned in addition to that you have the top [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] which makes it somewhat less likely that he has a flush. Also CC'ers are generally bad players.