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JoshuaD 02-25-2005 01:40 PM

QQ - King on board, River decision?
 
No read on villian here, this is his very first hand at the table.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.5 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (5.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero ???

Entity 02-25-2005 01:46 PM

Re: QQ - King on board, River decision?
 
WTF? How did the pot sizes get to be this far off?

Anyway, I'd bet the river and hope he calls with a mid pocket pair.

Rob

PotatoStew 02-25-2005 01:49 PM

Re: QQ - King on board, River decision?
 
Seems like maybe he has a mid PP, and is now worried that you're just stringing him along. I'd say bet, because there are quite a few hands he might play that way that you could beat, and he probably won't fold for one more bet. I can't imagine he'd try a checkraise here, with how passive you've been post flop.

JoshuaD 02-25-2005 01:52 PM

Re: QQ - King on board, River decision?
 
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WTF? How did the pot sizes get to be this far off?

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I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Have you been hitting the bottle early today rob?

Entity 02-25-2005 01:53 PM

Re: QQ - King on board, River decision?
 
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WTF? How did the pot sizes get to be this far off?

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I fabricated the hand and forgot to change that. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Haha. Anyway, I'm betting and folding to a checkraise.

Rob

roundhouse 02-25-2005 01:56 PM

Re: QQ - King on board, River decision?
 
I'd reraise the flop. I think if he really had the K (or 3) he wouldn't have bet into you on the flop. Your hand is probably good. Calling the flop then raising the turn would also get my thumbs up.

But to answer the question marks... Hero bets for value.

RH

JoshuaD 02-25-2005 01:56 PM

Re: QQ - King on board, River decision?
 
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Haha. Anyway, I'm betting and folding to a checkraise.

Rob

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Cool. If the flop was K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], does it change hero's line at all?

JoshuaD 02-25-2005 01:59 PM

Re: QQ - King on board, River decision?
 
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I'd reraise the flop. I think if he really had the K (or 3) he wouldn't have bet into you on the flop. Your hand is probably good. Calling the flop then raising the turn would also get my thumbs up.

But to answer the question marks... Hero bets for value.

RH

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I was also misplaying this hand until recently. Check out this thread, Ed likes the call/call/call line. I'm just trying to expand on it.

JoshuaD 02-25-2005 01:59 PM

Re: QQ - King on board, River decision?
 
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WTF? How did the pot sizes get to be this far off?

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I fabricated the hand and forgot to change that. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Haha. Anyway, I'm betting and folding to a checkraise.

Rob

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You know, it's pretty rude to put words in my mouth. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] You really need to lay off the drink.

Entity 02-25-2005 02:01 PM

Re: QQ - King on board, River decision?
 
[ QUOTE ]
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WTF? How did the pot sizes get to be this far off?

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I fabricated the hand and forgot to change that. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Haha. Anyway, I'm betting and folding to a checkraise.

Rob

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You know, it's pretty rude to put words in my mouth. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] You really need to lay off the drink.

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Quotes don't lie, bitch. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I'm sneaking a raise in there somewhere -- often on the turn, sometimes on the river -- on the K43 board. There are many more hands he can be betting here so it's not as much of a ahead/behind binary.

Rob


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