10/20 blind defense round 4, part3 - K8o
 

Villain is 53/23/1.3 over 137

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 4 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (5 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero...

Surf

Re: 10/20 blind defense round 4, part3 - K8o
 

I call, and fold turn unless a K or T hits.

Re: 10/20 blind defense round 4, part3 - K8o
 

seems like an easy fold to me.

Re: 10/20 blind defense round 4, part3 - K8o
 

?

Re: 10/20 blind defense round 4, part3 - K8o
 

fold, sometimes call with the intention of raising the turn depending on specifics.

Re: 10/20 blind defense round 4, part3 - K8o
 

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seems like an easy fold to me.

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Your idea is that he will have any of the top2 pair most of the time? Not saying you are wrong but VPIP 50 and AF 1.3 is pretty LAG.

Re: 10/20 blind defense round 4, part3 - K8o
 

I fold.

Re: 10/20 blind defense round 4, part3 - K8o
 

I realize he has a wide range, but still K-high needs to improve to take to a sd against this opponent. 6 pair outs discounted to 3-4 since 8 is middle pair and 8 or K may bring straight, plus 1 out for backdoor straight. ~4-5 outs getting 8-1. I suppose its a little closer than I thought but I still feel its a fold.

Re: 10/20 blind defense round 4, part3 - K8o
 

Surf, thanks for posting these "routine" sorts of hands. I think a lot of people don't think about these flop peels as deeply as they should. I think this hand should be a fold, but I don't think there is any real problem with peeling if he'd checkraise with any pair/any draw.

Re: 10/20 blind defense round 4, part3 - K8o
 

One more thing. If you are calling this flop you shouldn't be folding if an 8 comes on the turn IMO.