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12-27-2005 12:47 AM

BB special : 2 pair ... but facing river bet
 
Villian is uber LP/Fish. Saw him limp QQ on the button 3way few hands ago and lose to something. I'm really unsure of what hand range to put him on so this call was kind of painful. Does anybody fold here?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Hero ($60.95)
UTG ($11.70)
MP ($137.62)
CO ($46.50)
Button ($47.70)
SB ($52.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($2) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks.

Turn: ($2) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.9</font>, UTG folds, MP calls $1.90, SB folds.

River: ($5.80) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $15</font>, Hero calls $12.

Final Pot: $35.80

Fallen Hero 12-27-2005 01:15 AM

Re: BB special : 2 pair ... but facing river bet
 
[ QUOTE ]
Villian is uber LP/Fish. Saw him limp QQ on the button 3way few hands ago and lose to something. I'm really unsure of what hand range to put him on so this call was kind of painful. Does anybody fold here?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Hero ($60.95)
UTG ($11.70)
MP ($137.62)
CO ($46.50)
Button ($47.70)
SB ($52.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($2) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks.

Turn: ($2) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.9</font>, UTG folds, MP calls $1.90, SB folds.

River: ($5.80) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $15</font>, Hero calls $12.

Final Pot: $35.80

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the only hand I can imagine him having that beats you is K5

12-27-2005 01:42 AM

Re: BB special : 2 pair ... but facing river bet
 
You should've bet the flop. Fold on a re-raise.

12-27-2005 02:42 AM

Re: BB special : 2 pair ... but facing river bet
 
Call all day against this guy. You haven't shown that you have a big hand, so he could easily have an A or K that he decided is best. Pot the river too next time.

stealyourface 12-27-2005 02:46 AM

Re: BB special : 2 pair ... but facing river bet
 
if he is passive, i think this is an easy fold.

12-27-2005 03:04 AM

Re: BB special : 2 pair ... but facing river bet
 
talk about mixed responses lol

pot riv and fold to raise? more than min raise that is, right?

Fallen Hero 12-27-2005 03:28 AM

Re: BB special : 2 pair ... but facing river bet
 
[ QUOTE ]
Call all day against this guy. You haven't shown that you have a big hand, so he could easily have an A or K that he decided is best. Pot the river too next time.

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how is this an easy fold? he can't have a set, he can't have aces up, wtf can he have that beats you?
I can only see AK and K5

FreakDaddy 12-27-2005 03:35 AM

Re: BB special : 2 pair ... but facing river bet
 
River raises by fishes are RARELY bluffs. Remember that and save your money. Against a better opponent I call here(because you have to add the possibility of a busted flush bluff), against a fish I fold 100 out of 100 times.


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