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chuddo 11-16-2005 08:42 PM

A2s vs. flop push - 10/20 NL shorthanded.
 
4-handed.
effective stacks 2k.

hero: A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

hero opens utg to 70.

solid player that is likely a winner in this game but seems to be weak lately calls on the button.

FLOP: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]-7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]-2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (pot:170)

hero leads for 190.
button pauses, goes all in for 1800.

hero calls quickly.

thoughts?

Ulysses 11-16-2005 08:53 PM

Re: A2s vs. flop push - 10/20 NL shorthanded.
 
9sTs is a 55% favorite. A pair as hefty as 55 is an 80% favorite. Hands like 8s7s and As7s have hero just destroyed.

Not sure what you were hoping for, chuddo. This looks like a very tilty play.

Rococo 11-16-2005 08:55 PM

Re: A2s vs. flop push - 10/20 NL shorthanded.
 
This seems like a math question. My wild ass guess at his range is the following:

Set -- 5%
Overpair -- 15%
Flush draw with overs -- 30%
Combo straight and flush draw -- 25%
Air -- 25%

Where does that leave you?

lapoker17 11-16-2005 08:57 PM

Re: A2s vs. flop push - 10/20 NL shorthanded.
 
My thoughts are WTF is wrong with you?

So he had a 53 spades and missed? Still a brutal call.

Matt Flynn 11-16-2005 08:58 PM

Re: A2s vs. flop push - 10/20 NL shorthanded.
 
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thoughts?

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If he has something he has you close to a coin flip or destroyed.

If he has nothing you can accomplish your goal with a much smaller bet.

SunOfBeach 11-16-2005 09:00 PM

Re: A2s vs. flop push - 10/20 NL shorthanded.
 
obviously you put him on air... but my fear is how often youd lose to air here.

putting a guy on a 'range' given this massive overbet requires a bit of help from the gods. you hope he has AK? do you really want to get this much money in there against him if he has any two spades/overcards (QsJs, maybe)? and god forbid he has a pair, and youre in there with 5 outs. i think this call is crazy, unfortunately he probably has to take this down with his air...

Allinlife 11-16-2005 09:02 PM

Re: A2s vs. flop push - 10/20 NL shorthanded.
 
hero hates money

KaneKungFu123 11-16-2005 09:17 PM

Re: A2s vs. flop push - 10/20 NL shorthanded.
 
Good thing I hit the river again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




























































i kid.

chuddo 11-16-2005 09:28 PM

Re: A2s vs. flop push - 10/20 NL shorthanded.
 
kane, your pm box is full. clear it out.

lapoker17 11-16-2005 09:29 PM

Re: A2s vs. flop push - 10/20 NL shorthanded.
 
I've given this some more thought and decided that if you're doing stuff like this, you're playing out of your league. You've probably had a good run of cards and think you are a good player, but you obviously are not.

I think you should move down a few levels, read some books and watch less WPT.

Best of luck.


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