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11t 07-20-2005 05:35 PM

Re: Easily answered
 
If you are going to get involved in this pot your only choice is to fold.

If you raise 3xbb you are forced to call a push due to pot odds. Max FE by pushing.

1C5 07-20-2005 05:36 PM

Re: Easily answered
 
I usually push here as well.

tigerite 07-20-2005 05:38 PM

Re: Easily answered
 
I would like to know if this is also standard, however.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed) converter

MP (t2465)
CO (t952)
Button (t555)
SB (t1910)
Hero (t850)
UTG (t1268)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t200</font>, Hero goes all-in, SB calls t650.

Flop: (t950) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t950) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t950) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t950

curtains 07-20-2005 05:39 PM

Re: Easily answered
 

Standard for me. However if I had 1450-1500 I fold, and if Im one seat further away I fold.

curtains 07-20-2005 05:40 PM

Re: Easily answered
 

tigerrite that is clearly standard. Anything other than moving allin there is terrible IMO.

11t 07-20-2005 05:44 PM

Re: Easily answered
 
Yah, if I was in mp I wouldn't ask. It just seemed that with my exact stack size and my exact position on the table I really didn't feel comfortable with pushing or folding.

tigerite 07-20-2005 05:45 PM

Re: Easily answered
 
[ QUOTE ]

tigerrite that is clearly standard. Anything other than moving allin there is terrible IMO.

[/ QUOTE ]

That's what I thought, just the min-raise crap is always a bit of a strange one. Never quite know what to make of it, other than he's probably a bit of a donk, but he hadn't played like that up til then.

Jay36489 07-20-2005 05:49 PM

Re: Easily answered
 
For me 66 is not that tough of a fold, 77 is a tough fold, and 88 is a somewhat tough push.

11t 07-20-2005 05:52 PM

Re: Easily answered
 
I want to punch people who min-bet/min raise in the face.

I also hate people like this.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (5 handed) converter

Button (t2355)
Hero (t6055)
BB (t1400)
UTG (t1700)
MP (t1990)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls t200, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t6055</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls t2155 (All-In).

Flop: (t8610) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t8610) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t8610) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t8610

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Button has 3c 3s (flush, ten high).
Hero has 8d Ah (one pair, eights).
Outcome: Button wins t4910. Hero wins t3700. </font>

tigerite 07-20-2005 05:54 PM

Re: Easily answered
 
And those who call all in with A4s for no apparent reason, but I hear you. Then suck out on your A8o, and leave you knacked and finishing 5th. Anyways, he had TT in the hand, so it wasn't a bad beat of any kind, but why the hell he didn't just push, I have no idea.


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