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coffeecrazy1 10-18-2005 10:52 AM

Do We Work Too Hard?
 
As I'm sitting at work, I am conscious of the fact that many people around me work very long hours(I work in a law firm). 60 or 70 hours a week is average for some of these guys, and some of them, longer than that.

Many of them are divorced. Several of them lament the fact that they never spend time with their kids. Many of them don't go on vacation for years at a time. One person told me she hadn't been on vacation in over five years.

I understand that people work as much as they want to, and that businesses are more than happy to let them do it. I would never suggest anything like a mandated vacation time or anything like that...my libertarianism is too strong... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].

But, I wonder about this from a humanitarian point of view. Do we Americans work ourselves to death? I have seen data that says we outwork everyone, including the Japanese(which is saying something). We get less vacation and work more hours than the rest of the world.

As a result, we are very technologically advanced. But, if we are sacrificing so much of our lives, shouldn't we be #1 in everything? Shouldn't we lead the world in all categories related to output? And yet, we don't...so it makes me question why we do it.

Sorry about the hippie post from a generally firebrand free market guy, but frankly, I will never enjoy working more than I will playing...and I can't understand people who don't ever play...and I'm just asking for an explanation.

10-18-2005 04:34 PM

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Matty 10-18-2005 04:34 PM

Re: Do We Work Too Hard?
 
Haven't you been listening to the Republicans? This is a welfare state that breeds laziness. The data you're seeing is wrong and probably just a product of the liberal media.

But on the bright side, we're by far the most obese country. That's the first thing the exchange students I mentor notice and make fun of us for when they come here.

Stu Pidasso 10-18-2005 05:41 PM

Re: Do We Work Too Hard?
 
When I had 2 kids I worked 70 hours a week.

Now I have 6 kids and work 40 hours a week(this includes the time I spend playing poker). I connect so much better with the youngest 4 kids than I do with the older two.

I had nicer stuff when I worked 70 hours a week but my overall quality of life is better now. I have come to realize most people are whacked out and I'm glad I came to my senses before it was too late.

Stu

lehighguy 10-18-2005 06:06 PM

Re: Do We Work Too Hard?
 
We definately don't work more then the Japanese. That much I'm sure of.

I'd happily accept a 30% reduction in pay if is was accompanied by a 30% reduction in hours but most employers won't do that. Training costs and other things are too high.

Darryl_P 10-18-2005 06:52 PM

Re: Do We Work Too Hard?
 
My theory is that workaholics are escaping from something. If they have too much down time they'll realize how miserable they really are and that their life has no meaning. And to give it meaning will mean major restructuring which involves a lot of discomfort which they don't want.

That's my theory anyway.

lehighguy 10-18-2005 08:10 PM

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Or they need the money. Student loans, healthcare, dependents, rent, etc.

10-18-2005 09:11 PM

Re: Do We Work Too Hard?
 
I do think that we generally work too hard primarily because of one stupid fact. We've all bought into the heavily marketed idea that if you accumulate more things, you'll be happier.

Once you have the basic necessities covered, spending more time with loved ones or on a cherished hobby will make you happier than an upgraded car or bigger TV.

Peter666 10-18-2005 09:46 PM

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Yes. It's a combination of meaningless lives and the high debt we put ourselves into thanks to Capitalism and the banking system.

SheetWise 10-18-2005 10:49 PM

Re: Do We Work Too Hard?
 
The best advice my father ever gave me was, "Find something you like to do -- then find someone willing to pay you to do it."

Amazingly, that person has always been there. I casually take a year off, then work a few years -- and I generally do the same things when I have a sponsor as I do when I don't. I work 100+ hrs. a week whether I'm being paid or not.


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