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Eyeback 03-10-2005 11:26 AM

7 hands from my last loosing session.
 
Sorry for spamming these HH. Hopefully I'll learn something [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

#1
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 8.25 BB


#2
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks.

Turn: (2.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, SB folds.

River: (6.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 checks.

Final Pot: 6.50 BB

#3

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 7.75 BB

#4

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, SB calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

River: (5.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 5.50 BB

#5

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO (poster) calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP1 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (11.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP1 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, CO calls.

River: (14.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP1 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, CO folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 18.25 BB

#6

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP2 calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP2 checks.

River: (6 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 8 BB

#7

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP1 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP1 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 8.25 BB

All input appreciated, thanks [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Reef 03-10-2005 11:37 AM

Re: 7 hands from my last loosing session.
 
first off, post 1 hand at a time. Wait at least 4 hours before posting the next hand.

hand 1: I think I would raise the turn and fold to a 3-bet. If called, I'd check the river. Maybe do this with the flop instead of the turn.

hand 2: I think you can bet this flop. It probably missed the callers.

hand 3: bet the river

hand 4: fine

hand 5: fine

hand 6: I check/call the river

hand 7: reads would REALLY help here. He raised into a multiway field. Unlikely a bluff. Pot is still small, I think a fold is ok.

zuluking 03-10-2005 11:38 AM

Re: 7 hands from my last loosing session.
 
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Hopefully I'll learn something [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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You're about to learn that by posting 7 hands, hardly anyone will respond.

jaxUp 03-10-2005 11:42 AM

Re: 7 hands from my last loosing session.
 
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Hopefully I'll learn something [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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You're about to learn that by posting 7 hands, hardly anyone will respond.

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nh

Reef 03-10-2005 11:44 AM

Re: 7 hands from my last loosing session.
 
[ QUOTE ]
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Hopefully I'll learn something [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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You're about to learn that by posting 7 hands, hardly anyone will respond.

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I'm extra nice to everyone (noobs included), as it is my carpal tunnel metamorphosis.

Eyeback 03-10-2005 11:48 AM

Re: 7 hands from my last loosing session.
 
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first off, post 1 hand at a time. Wait at least 4 hours before posting the next hand.


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Keep that in mind thanks.

The villain in #7 was LAG (based on my 30ish hand read) so thats why I hesitated before I folded.

Anyways, thanks for all the input and I'll keep my HH to one hand at the time from now on [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

@bsolute_luck 03-10-2005 12:05 PM

Re: 7 hands from my last loosing session.
 
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first off, post 1 hand at a time. Wait at least 4 hours before posting the next hand.

hand 1: I think I would raise the turn and fold to a 3-bet. If called, I'd check the river. Maybe do this with the flop instead of the turn.

hand 2: I think you can bet this flop. It probably missed the callers.

hand 3: bet the river

hand 4: fine

hand 5: fine

hand 6: I check/call the river

hand 7: reads would REALLY help here. He raised into a multiway field. Unlikely a bluff. Pot is still small, I think a fold is ok.

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whew! 7 hands is a lot to think about [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

okay i differ from your suggestions some, but i was close. i usually don't play this higher limit, but i'm learning. anyway....

#1: Initially i had thought fold the flop. your suggestion is more aggressive than i tend to be, but if that's the best idea, then i can try to change.

#2: Agree to bet flop. What about betting the river?

#3: Agreed bet river.

#4: What about raising PRF? Other than that, okay.

#5: Agreed played fine. River just sucks.

#6: What about calling the 3-bet instead of raising?

#7: I had thought calling on the turn, but the pot is pretty small.

Reef 03-10-2005 12:25 PM

Re: 7 hands from my last loosing session.
 
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first off, post 1 hand at a time. Wait at least 4 hours before posting the next hand.

hand 1: I think I would raise the turn and fold to a 3-bet. If called, I'd check the river. Maybe do this with the flop instead of the turn.

hand 2: I think you can bet this flop. It probably missed the callers.

hand 3: bet the river

hand 4: fine

hand 5: fine

hand 6: I check/call the river

hand 7: reads would REALLY help here. He raised into a multiway field. Unlikely a bluff. Pot is still small, I think a fold is ok.

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whew! 7 hands is a lot to think about [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

okay i differ from your suggestions some, but i was close. i usually don't play this higher limit, but i'm learning. anyway....

#1: Initially i had thought fold the flop. your suggestion is more aggressive than i tend to be, but if that's the best idea, then i can try to change.

#2: Agree to bet flop. What about betting the river?

#3: Agreed bet river.

#4: What about raising PRF? Other than that, okay.

#5: Agreed played fine. River just sucks.

#6: What about calling the 3-bet instead of raising?

#7: I had thought calling on the turn, but the pot is pretty small.

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I am no poker authority by any means. I am just a winning 4-tabling 2/4 player. These are just my opinions, that's all.

#1) this is really player dependent. The raise gives me information and a chance for them to muck.

#2) betting and folding to a raise is an ok option (but my 2nd choice).. but 4 handed, I just don't feel like a worse hand will call/better hand will fold.

#4) raise Q3s preflop from the BB?

#6) I like capping because your pot equity is HUGE

#7) again, this is really player dependent. It could go either way

@bsolute_luck 03-10-2005 12:31 PM

Re: 7 hands from my last loosing session.
 
well i just started playing for real money @ .25/.5 (and i won last night) so i'll take all the help i can get.

at the higher micro stakes, i don't know if it would work, but limping in with Q3s just seems kinda pointless especially if you don't hit a solid flush draw on the flop. by raising, you could win the pot from the limpers or have more $$ in if you do hit your flush.

i guess with only 3 in, a Queen pair is good? anyway, steal attempt was my thought though i don't know if it would work.

hate 03-10-2005 12:47 PM

Re: 7 hands from my last loosing session.
 
hand #1, I bet the river, it's more than possible he's on a frisky AK, I see that commonly capped.

hand #3, you should be betting the river.

hand #6, you've got a gutshot straight draw, a flush draw, and a middle pair. Why would you not bet the turn?

I call down on #7.


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