When to give up with the nut flush draw
 

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls, CO folds, BB calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (7.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

On theturn I have nine outs to the nut flush and the pot is 9,75 BB when the action comes to me the first time. I should call, no problem. When BB starts raising I put him on something between a big two pair and a house. But I can´t possibly find a fold except on the river where I´m sure an overcall is a misstake.

River: (19.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP1 calls, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 21.75 BB

Re: When to give up with the nut flush draw
 

Fine

Re: When to give up with the nut flush draw
 

If I'm counting it right, the crazy turn action gives you 9.75:1 the first time, and 14.75:2 the second time (~7.5:1) and then 18:1 on the final bet. Is that right? Overall it's 31.75:4 total for the turn, or almost 8:1.

Barring you drawing dead to a FH, you'll hit your nut flush more often than they'll hit their gutshot (with two pair to fill up). BB's initial c/r then cap would be the only thing scaring me. Did you have any reads on him?

Re: When to give up with the nut flush draw
 

BB was 41/11/1,42

Re: When to give up with the nut flush draw
 

Why not raise the flop? Face the field with calling 2?

The way you played it, I think you folded in the only place you could.

Re: When to give up with the nut flush draw
 

Hmmmm..somewhat loose and not too aggressive. Your only real decision is whether or not to call the two cold on the raise and re-raise... since if you do that, you're automatically calling a cap as well, if that happens... which it did.

If this is wrong, I don't think it's very wrong. If it's right, I don't think it's very right, either. Someone who's a lot better at poker than I am will chime in, I'm sure.

Re: When to give up with the nut flush draw
 

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Why not raise the flop? Face the field with calling 2?

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Why do we want to do that?

Re: When to give up with the nut flush draw
 

anyone else raising this preflop?

Re: When to give up with the nut flush draw
 

Yup.