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Justin A 06-30-2005 05:48 AM

Some ace high call downs
 
See if you can figure out which hands I won.

Hand 1: Opponent is the average loose aggressive moron.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (9 max, 8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (5.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 7.75 BB




Hand 2: Villain is still a moron, a bit less loose and aggressive than the last guy.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, CO folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (2.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks.

River: (2.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 4.50 BB




Hand 3: A theme is devoloping, this time my opponent is a complete moron, although very passive preflop and I don't have postflop numbers.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 4 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (5.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 7.25 BB




Hand 4: Opponent is 30/13/1.2

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: (1.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, Button folds.

River: (3.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 5.50 BB




Hand 5: Opponent this time has numbers of 27/3 preflop.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (9 max, 9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: (3.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 5.25 BB

Jeff W 06-30-2005 05:54 AM

Re: Some ace high call downs
 
[ QUOTE ]
See if you can figure out which hands I won.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think you won 1 &amp; 3 and lost 2,4 &amp; 5.

I would have bet the flop in 2 and raised pre flop&amp;bet flop in 4.

aK13 06-30-2005 05:54 AM

Re: Some ace high call downs
 
I like bet/folding the turn in hand 1

I fold flop hand 2

I fold river hand 3

I fold turn hand 4

I like hand 5

Roy6 06-30-2005 06:02 AM

Re: Some ace high call downs
 
Hand1: I'll bet this turn against most opponents, but it's highly likely you'll be bluff-raised against this guy so the check is probably good.

Hand2: The pot is small, don't know if it's worth fighting for.
I might lead the flop though.

Hand3: I like

Hand4: looks similar to hand2

Hand5: I'd bet the turn

cartman 06-30-2005 06:39 AM

Re: Some ace high call downs
 
In my opinion:

#3 is fine.

#1 and #5 are OK only if your opponent is willing to bluff without at least a pair. If you haven't caught him doing this before or if you don't at least strongly suspect that he has done it due to the frequency of his turn raises, then I think you must bet the turn and fold to a raise.

#2 and #4 are absolutely dreadful. The pots are small, your Ace is bad (I wouldn't call with a good one either, though), and I think calling down is very -EV.

Cartman

Justin A 06-30-2005 08:18 PM

Re: Some ace high call downs
 
Anyone else?

Subfallen 06-30-2005 08:38 PM

Re: Some ace high call downs
 
#1: pretty standard.

#2: Raise pre-flop if you're going to play. Flop call is bizarre to me, I would fold every time. However, you have to call the river IMO given the action.

#3: I fold river simply because of the sheer number of hands this board hits. Turn donk-bet to me looks like a decent made hand that suddenly realized it doesn't want to give a free card.

#4: Don't like it. SB could easily check the flop with a baby pair, then become confident when the Q pairs.

#5: Yeah, call, though I prefer betting the turn. I really prefer betting the turn.

I think you win 1, 2, and 5.

ISF 06-30-2005 08:43 PM

Re: Some ace high call downs
 
1, and 3 I play the same. 2 and 4 I would toss. Hand 5 I would probably call, but im not you should.

Chiron 07-01-2005 02:05 AM

Re: Some ace high call downs
 
you lost hands 1, 3, 4
you won hands 2, 5

Justin A 07-01-2005 03:27 AM

Re: Some ace high call downs
 
I won hands one, two, and four. Hand 3 opponent had a 9. Hand 5 opponent had J9 for the straight.


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